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Derek Draper - an invasion of privacy?

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Montespan · 23/03/2021 18:09

I’ve been a bit horrified by the trailer I’ve seen for Kate Garraway’s documentary about her husband’s struggle with coronavirus. It included a shot of him in hospital.

I see Kate Garraway has said that given his interest in mental health, her husband would want his journey to be shared. But, is it ethical or even legal to rely on assumed consent to having such very personal information - and even footage -shared?

I do appreciate his wife means well, and has been through a lot - but i really can’t see how Derek Draper had the capacity to give informed consent to this, and in the absence of consent I don’t see how itv can show this.

Disclosure- a big part of the reason I’m so horrified by this is that I myself have been near death in intensive care (some years ago). I would have been utterly aghast if footage of me distressed & in pain had been shared. Horrified. Appalled. Humiliated. The experience was such a deeply personal one, for me & my family. Not one for the public to gawp at.

It worries me that a tv company can have such a cavalier approach to consent and privacy in a medical setting. Does anyone share these views?

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StarCat2020 · 23/03/2021 18:12

I thought this every time the news showed a patient in ICU and then made a point of saying that their family had given their consent.

CuthbertDibbleandGrubb · 23/03/2021 18:13

I will not be watching it. A still photo would be OK, not anything else, even though I'm sure Kate Garraway has good intentions.

justanotherneighinparadise · 23/03/2021 18:13

She maybe needed the money rather desperately.

Crakeandoryx · 23/03/2021 18:15

Completely agree. Its such a private situation that any public disclosure or discussions make me feel so uncomfortable.

JanFebAnyMonth · 23/03/2021 18:15

He can tak now and has been able to for some time, so presumably has given consent, at least retrospectively for the ICU filming?

CovidCorvid · 23/03/2021 18:15

I thought this months ago when I first heard a documentary was being made and when she was sharing some details about him. I’m sure she knows him best and I hope if he ever becomes aware of it he doesn’t mind. But I’m uncomfortable about it.

blue25 · 23/03/2021 18:16

I agree. It feels really inappropriate and uncomfortable. It seems that some people feel anything and anyone is game when it comes to chasing exposure/money.

UnderHisAye · 23/03/2021 18:17

I've thought about starting a thread like this but worried it would come off wrong.

I think it's a gross invasion of his privacy; I don't know if she is desperate for money but the book, the documentary, the constant Daily Mail updates. It's all so much, like it's some issue of grave national importance.

I hope he never gets to resent the access the public seem to have to him at his most vulnerable.

Straussful · 23/03/2021 18:18

I agree. Some years ago I was involved in an accident. I was injured and barely conscious. I recovered fully but part of the flashback horrors were what state people had seen me in (struggling to stay conscious and being questioned to keep me awake) especially as, at that point, it was local people. I had no idea who had seen me like that. From the memory of hospital on I wasn't worried because every patient is sick there but I agree, You're very vulnerable in a poorly state. I don't know these people but have seen threads about this programme and the ethics of sharing these images.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 23/03/2021 18:19

I thought this when I saw the clips. He can't consent, even if she thinks it is what he would want how can anyone know if someone would want to be filmed and their condition publicly aired in such a vulnerable state.

I feel sorry for what she has endured but no, this just seems so intrusive.

If they kept the filming and aired it once he was home, consented and was 100% aware fine.

Ahbahbahbah · 23/03/2021 18:20

She has said that he’s “in and out” in terms of how lucid he is, and he still has capacity. She isn’t able to access his accounts or anything because he is still deemed to be able to run his own affairs. So I assume at some point he has given consent for this.

raviolidreaming · 23/03/2021 18:32

I think this about most fly-on-the-wall hospital programmes / stories shared on social media around people with cognitive impairments.

user1493494961 · 23/03/2021 19:16

I think it's a gross invasion of his privacy.

LaurieFairyCake · 23/03/2021 19:18

He will definitely have given consent for this

BonnieDundee · 23/03/2021 19:19

I agree OP. I knew someone who spent some time in intensive care and their family put pics on FB. I made my DH and adult DC promise there and then that if I were ever in that situation, nobody would get to take photos

UnderHisAye · 23/03/2021 19:21

I just wonder why anyone is even interested, apart from their family and friends?

More than 126k people dead, but this is the DM headline at least a few days a week.

nevertrustaherdofcows · 23/03/2021 19:21

She's screwed money-wise isn't she? No one in their fifties ever thinks to grant a Power of Attorney, so she cant touch accounts in his name. If this documentary keeps the wolf from the door and keeps the kids in their schools, I should think he'll swallow his pride and be bloody proud of her one day, even if he doesn't have that level of cognitive function now.

Viviennemary · 23/03/2021 19:26

I think it's absolutely appalling. I didn't know who he was and now every day there's another article. Dreadful. Is somebody making money out of this.

XenoBitch · 23/03/2021 19:28

@BonnieDundee

Someone on my FB did the same. Their mum was in ICU, tubes all over the place and unconscious. Her son took a ton of photos and put them on FB. She recovered and absolutely blasted him for doing that, and rightly so.

CovidCorvid · 23/03/2021 19:31

I can understand if she’s needing to do it to keep the wolf from the door for the sake of her kids and if this is the case it’s very likely he’d be ok with it. Hopefully he’s consented when lucid enough.

PandoraP · 23/03/2021 19:33

I thought the same. It’s very intrusive and I am not sure of interest to the public? I doubt she is trifling for money. She has a well paid job.
I also wonder who watch all the real life ambulance and hospital ward programmes.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 23/03/2021 19:34

@BonnieDundee

That's awful, I don't blame her.

Last year when the press were still talking about people who'd died or were seriously ill that if he allowed my name or picture to be shown I would either haunt him or never forgive him.

GreyhoundG1rl · 23/03/2021 19:36

@UnderHisAye

I just wonder why anyone is even interested, apart from their family and friends?

More than 126k people dead, but this is the DM headline at least a few days a week.

I agree. There's been a disproportionate amount of "updates" in the media and it really is very distasteful.

XenoBitch · 23/03/2021 19:37

I also wonder who watch all the real life ambulance and hospital ward programmes.

Both me and my mum like to watch them. I also know a few people that were in them.

YellowandGreenToBeSeen · 23/03/2021 19:38

A) she doesn’t need the money

B) if you think for one second there’s no informed consent, you have no idea how many lawyers will have crawled all over this documentary. The contract will have been incredible and watertight for exactly the reasons you state. It will have been raised at the very first meeting.

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