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Is life never going back to normal?

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JuneMoonstone · 20/03/2021 22:52

I feel incredibly lucky that I've lived 44 years of a normal life. I am heartbroken at the way life has become. Like so many others, I feel like I am existing, not living. I don't see any point in making plans, I don't feel any hope for the future. I was feeling quite positive about the progress made in the UK with vaccines and seeing the infection rates and death rates lower. However with the news about the rest of Europe going into lockdown due to escalating infection rates, I can't help but feel that we are never going to get out of this bloody mess. I cannot help but believe that we will have to live our lives under constant restrictions forever now because of this virus. Is life really going to be shit from now on? Will I ever be able to, for example, go into a busy pub on a Friday night and watch a live band and have a bloody good time again? Will we have to wear face masks permanently in public places from now on? I get a very strong feeling that this will be the case. It's my daughter I feel for the most. She's just 5 years old. What kind of a life is she going to have?

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Bythemillpond · 31/03/2021 15:59

I think I am too old for festivals and only go to gigs if a friends dc is in the band

Looks like my life is never going to be the same again.
It makes me wonder if the world shouldn’t have just carried on and got through it. I think the death rate would have been less than this extended period we are having to deal with this virus for.
I have lost friends to Covid but also lost more to suicide because of harsh lockdowns (not in this country)

Waxonwaxoff0 · 31/03/2021 16:06

@thevicarstroketwice

What I find the most boring are people whining against the rules and not respecting any of them.

They are the reason why things are dragging on.

Mainland Europe is slowly going back into lockdown, just compare the situation with New Zealand. As the UK is an island too... the mess we put ourselves into by lacking common sense and resilience is entirely our making.

Mainland Europe also hasn't vaccinated anywhere near as many people as we have.
PrincessNutNuts · 31/03/2021 17:36

@Bythemillpond

You really can’t compare the U.K. to New Zealand. They might both be islands and be of similar size but one is an international country with 68million people and a few mile from mainland Europe and one has 1/2 the population of the others capital city and set 2.5 thousand miles from its nearest neighbour
Compare the U.K. to South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, China, Vietnam, or Australia if you'd rather.
Bythemillpond · 31/03/2021 18:57

Compare the U.K. to South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, China, Vietnam, or Australia if you'd rather

No still not getting the comparison. If you are seriously comparing Australia with the U.K. or even Thailand China or South Korea etc then I don’t think you understand this virus or how we might be an island but we are also an island just a few miles from mainland Europe. We are also a very overweight nation.

Do you actually believe China’s figures? Or think Thailand, Taiwan etc are known for being places where the people are fat? I wonder how many deaths there would have been if Thailand or Singapore were known for their obesity crises

How many people rowed across the ocean to Australia to gain access to the country illegally?

Compare us with the US and we might be getting a better comparison but not islands that are thousands of miles away from any other country and those countries that aren’t known for having an overweight population

I also think there would have been an outcry if we had done lockdown like some countries.
The first lockdown everyone stayed home. People generally complied.
This second lockdown has been business as usual just no shops or hospitality.
I have sat in traffic from day 1.

BonnieDundee · 31/03/2021 19:20

The lack of resilience of the UK inhabitants is truly embarrassing.

I dont like this being used to silence people and minimise their distress at being denied basic human needs (yes, company is a basic human need). Its putting the blame on people for struggling with the restrictions we have had when actually that's a perfectly normal human reaction

Bythemillpond · 31/03/2021 19:47

The lack of resilience of the UK inhabitants is truly embarrassing

Would you be telling that to someone who was on the brink of suicide that they were embarrassing and lacking resilience

I know more people who have committed suicide (lockdown in another country) than I know who have died from Covid.

Xenia · 31/03/2021 20:04

The breach of our rights and freedoms is unprecedented and morally wrng. The Brussels courts have today required all CV19 legislation there to be abandoned in 30 days as it breached the law. The English courts have rightfully held the substantial meal rule unlawful and one other which In ow forget.

The huge support in the UK for substantial breaches of our rights and freedoms is surprising not the fact people are not resilient - In fact people have tolerated dreadful breaches of their rights and that is a huge pity. We have been sleep walking into a police state when we still cannot do most activities including having family around for easter lunch or h ave more than 13 people at an April wedding.

Xenia · 31/03/2021 20:04

They have also now banned children from singing in schools under new guidleines which is utterly appalling.

PrincessNutNuts · 31/03/2021 20:28

@Bythemillpond

Compare the U.K. to South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, China, Vietnam, or Australia if you'd rather

No still not getting the comparison. If you are seriously comparing Australia with the U.K. or even Thailand China or South Korea etc then I don’t think you understand this virus or how we might be an island but we are also an island just a few miles from mainland Europe. We are also a very overweight nation.

Do you actually believe China’s figures? Or think Thailand, Taiwan etc are known for being places where the people are fat? I wonder how many deaths there would have been if Thailand or Singapore were known for their obesity crises

How many people rowed across the ocean to Australia to gain access to the country illegally?

Compare us with the US and we might be getting a better comparison but not islands that are thousands of miles away from any other country and those countries that aren’t known for having an overweight population

I also think there would have been an outcry if we had done lockdown like some countries.
The first lockdown everyone stayed home. People generally complied.
This second lockdown has been business as usual just no shops or hospitality.
I have sat in traffic from day 1.

At some point we have to stop making excuses and take responsibility for why our covid response is measurably one of the top 5 worst in the world.

(Despite other countries also needing imports, being travel hubs, being densely populated, having old citizens, having fat citizens and all the rest of it.)

PrincessNutNuts · 31/03/2021 20:29

@Xenia

They have also now banned children from singing in schools under new guidleines which is utterly appalling.
You know why though, right?
kittensarecute · 31/03/2021 20:41

@Bythemillpond

The lack of resilience of the UK inhabitants is truly embarrassing

Would you be telling that to someone who was on the brink of suicide that they were embarrassing and lacking resilience

I know more people who have committed suicide (lockdown in another country) than I know who have died from Covid.

Well said. I myself have been on the brink of suicide several times throughout this pandemic.
MercyBooth · 31/03/2021 20:44

I'd say it was pretty bloody "normal" already
My hair and the hairdresser who tends to it would beg to differ.

Bythemillpond · 31/03/2021 20:49

At some point we have to stop making excuses and take responsibility for why our covid response is measurably one of the top 5 worst in the world

Actually we are not.
And with the vaccine rollout we will continue to drop down the list

dividedwefall · 31/03/2021 20:50

totally agree @Xenia. The public have allowed this. They have embraced it. And people here and in real life continue to defend and justify it. Just mind blowing how quickly people have surrendered their rights and turned on those less willing to.

MercyBooth · 31/03/2021 20:54

@dividedwefall wait till those of us who havent been able to have bra fittings have to #freethenipple because we have no choice.

Msmcc1212 · 31/03/2021 20:58

I’m trying to enjoy what I can in the present and not think too much about the future.

In reality it may well be that there is worse to come. The economic and mental health effects will be with us for many years. Brexit will make the economic situation worse (Farage himself admitted this) and then we have a climate emergency that is already effecting things more significantly than predicted.

If I think too much about this I get depressed and anxious so I stay in the present as much as possible whilst doing whatever is in my power to mitigate the effects on me, my family, humankind.

We are an adaptable and incredibly intelligent species, capable of great things, so I try and remain hopeful too.

spottygymbag · 02/04/2021 05:02

@Bythemillpond in 2019 approx 50,000 arrived by boat as asylum seekers in Australia. We are very close geographically to PNG which has a major outbreak at the moment and some of our blocked vaccine doses were going to be diverted to them. Not sure what's happening with that now.

spottygymbag · 02/04/2021 05:04

Also Australia and New Zealand are about to attempt a reciprocal quarantine-free bubble as we all start the transition to living with covid. So there is hope!

spottygymbag · 02/04/2021 05:14

NZ and Australia both rank higher in global obesity than the UK, and have at risk indigenous populations.
No they are not directly comparable to the UK but a lot of the reasons thrown out there for the numbers experienced by the uk seem to be repeated without much understanding.

Flaxmeadow · 02/04/2021 05:19

Who are these rants aimed at? Family who moved abroad?

If family move abroad then how much would they see of family anyway, without a pandemic?

spottygymbag · 02/04/2021 05:28

@Flaxmeadow if that's at me then I was responding to a couple of earlier posts. If not then I'll butt out!

Flaxmeadow · 02/04/2021 05:53

It was just a post in general, but also the OP seems upset that her family live abroad

Bythemillpond · 02/04/2021 11:41

spottygymbag

But did they come through ports and be counted or just row across in dinghys and run up the beach and disappear into the population.

Wildswim · 10/04/2021 22:53

@Xenia

They have also now banned children from singing in schools under new guidleines which is utterly appalling.
Utterly shocking and disgraceful.
RaraRachael · 10/04/2021 23:40

Our kids (Scotland) have been banned from singing since we went back last August Angry