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EMA briefing on AstraZeneca issue at 3pm - where to watch?

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doireallyneedaname · 18/03/2021 14:50

Does anyone know?

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Sam1470 · 18/03/2021 16:01

@doireallyneedaname

Does anyone know?
You can see it here:
RedToothBrush · 18/03/2021 16:06

And the EMA say its safe.
Its NOT associated with an increased risk of blood clots.

It could be a rare side effect, but they don't 100% know - they just are going to add warnings (like other medication such as the pill). And they still recommend its use.

What a shocker and fuss over fuck all.

RedToothBrush · 18/03/2021 16:10

AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING UK health regulator says 'no evidence' of any direct links between either AstraZeneca or Pfizer Covid vaccine and blood clots

AFP News Agency @AFP
#BREAKING EU regulator says AstraZeneca vaccine "not associated" with higher blood clot risk

HSHorror · 18/03/2021 16:24

I was just reading there are a few triggers for this. One is iron deficiency.
(I think a few people have had that after covid and obviously women can be higher risk for that etc)

When they test the vaxs presumably they eliminate tester who already had covid? So vaxxing the population where some have had it would get different results?

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 18/03/2021 16:24

From the gov.uk website:

Dr June Raine, MHRA Chief Executive, said:

We continually monitor safety during use of all a vaccines to protect the public, and to ensure the benefits continue to outweigh the risks.

Our thorough and careful review, alongside the critical assessment of leading, independent scientists, shows that there is no evidence that that blood clots in veins is occurring more than would be expected in the absence of vaccination, for either vaccine.

We have received a very small number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot in the cerebral veins (sinus vein thrombosis, or CSVT) occurring together with lowered platelets soon after vaccination. This type of blood clot can occur naturally in people who have not been vaccinated, as well as in those suffering from COVID-19.

Given the extremely rare rate of occurrence of these CSVT events among the 11 million people vaccinated, and as a link to the vaccine is unproven, the benefits of the vaccine in preventing COVID-19, with its associated risk of hospitalisation and death, continue to outweigh the risks of potential side effects.

[...]

While we continue to investigate these cases, as a precautionary measure we would advise anyone with a headache that lasts for more than 4 days after vaccination, or bruising beyond the site of vaccination after a few days, to seek medical attention.
[...]

We will continue to robustly monitor all the data we have on this extremely rare possible side effect.

So they are still referring to it as a possible side effect. What's changed then? I find this statement ambiguous which is disappointing. I was expecting something more categorical and reassuring. Guess it's early days in terms of data.

RedToothBrush · 18/03/2021 16:31

They are saying the vaccine is safe and we should still take it. If there is a link (which is not yet proven as directly attributable to the vaccination) then its an extremely rare reaction. They are saying that we should be aware of this, so if there is a link, that people can seek medical attention immediately and be investigated thoroughly - in part to study whether there is an issue for people from a particular group/medical history.

Basically its like taking the pill. The benefits out weigh the possible side effects on a population level by some considerable amount and they had confidence in the vaccine and it being safe.

The bottomline here is that no medicine can be guarenteed 100% safe, but taking medication may be safer than the 'Do Nothing' approach because it protects more people from worse outcomes. This isn't controversial or difficult to understand. We accept it daily.

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