Wales - anyone confused?

[Lubiluxe]

I'm finding the rules between each nation really confusing.

Can people in Wales visit people in England in their garden over Easter?

The couple in Wales are already bubbled with a single person household in England. This would be all travelling together for the day to sit in a garden.

To add. They would not stay over! But would stay over at the house they are bubbled with.

As I understand it there should be no travel across the border - but then if you live very close the border and the place you are visiting is within a 5 mile or so radius then I suppose the lines are more blurred.

Not sure of the correct answer but I’m just as confused with the different rules for different nations (and worried about how they’re throwing around the third wave in May threats)

Thanks Eruss. I was wondering more about when the 5 mile rule is lifted.

The people in Wales are yet to meet a grandchild so are obviously desperate to get there but don't want to break rules.

So my understanding is that at the moment you can only cross the border from Wales to England if either:

The border is local to you, or
You're traveling for a permitted reason, e.g. to see a support bubble, for specialist medical treatment, for work that cannot be done from home.

Once you have crossed the border, the English rules apply (didn't Mark Drakeford specifically say this in an interview the other day?).

So I think that the couple in Wales would be allowed to go and see their single person bubble in England, and also (if English rules permit) travel with them to visit a third household outdoors. But I have to say I'm not 100% sure.

Other way round for us, parents are in wales and we are in England. The way they see it English rules apply once they have crossed the border and there is no 'maximum distance' set on this side. Obviously Welsh police cannot arrest/fine you in England - only the English police who are enforcing English laws. They live within 5 miles of the border luckily so plan to come and see us. That said I don't think gardens are legal here for some time yet, definitely not yet.

The current plan is that England will allow people to meet in private gardens from 29th march, subject to no more than two households and six people. England have also said that they expect travel to be minimised, so maybe they will follow the Welsh stay local guidance? Hard to say if it will be allowed until England changes their guidance.

I think what your are suggesting, assuming it is after the 29th March, sounds entirely reasonable OP and almost certainly legal. I say almost certainly because it's never been clear how far we can travel in England and is open to interpretation. I don't expect that to change.

Thanks everyone! As much as I think Boris has handled a lot of this terribly, I feel that the 'what you can do when' is much clearer. Even though the dates may change, we know exactly in what order changes will happen..

I listened to the welsh update on Friday and he couldn't even answer whether gyms would open before allowing more people to mix indoors and vice versa. People don't necessarily need exact dates but should at least be allowed to know in what order everything Will happen..

Sorry for the moan. Just finding it hard.

@Lubiluxe
Agree entirely I think it’s wrong that Welsh people (and Welsh businesses) have basically been left dangling with little to no insight as to when they can do stuff and/or even open.
In england it’s been a bloody long slog all winter but now we’re grateful to have dates when we think we can do stuff. Appreciate that it might not necessarily end up that way but it helps ones mental health enormously. And even if dates to slip we know what is coming in what order.