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Is there any experience of covid after vaccination?

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HoleInBucket · 13/03/2021 13:54

I know the vaccines are very new and in the early days yet. I am interested in learning about covid infections after vaccinations. Is there any data or guidelines.

I became vaccinated thank goodness through my work and it was a good day. I am not in the UK. I am in an eu country and the progress on vaccinations and reopening is much slower.

My partner is now bored and angry at lockdown. I am afraid now for him that he might place himself more at risk of contracting covid and for spreading too especially considering the incubation period is so long and he refuses to use the covid tracking app. I guess he is now more at risk of contracting covid and for spreading ot onwards. Currently we don't live together but we see each other for a walk once or twice a week and sometimes I get a car lift from him.

I have a duty of care in my place of work and I don't want to place anyone at risk. If he is more at risk due to ignoring guidelines, would it mean that I will have to reduce my contact and exposure to him. I really don't want to be in a place of harming other people in my job from the virus.

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HoleInBucket · 13/03/2021 13:55

Everything I did following the public health guidelines over the past year I did to keep myself and my family and my work and partner as safe as possible by the way and I continue to follow the guidelines to a T to protect other people as much as possible.

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Thimbleberries · 13/03/2021 13:58

a friend got Covid after having had 2 doses of AZ (she was in the trial). She said it was pretty mild, and she had some symptoms that lasted about a week. It's likely that she got it from her child who was at primary school. Others in her household didn't get it (at least symptomatically). She's early 40s and quite fit, so wouldn't have been likely to have had it seriously in any case, but she does have mild asthma, so it could have been more serious. She's of the belief that having had the vaccine made it milder, and less likely to infect others in her household (who were all being careful around her).

MRex · 13/03/2021 14:21

Transmission goes down about 66-70% after vaccination. Of course it's also hard to know if someone's been exposed and not caught it. Even if you got mild symptoms you'd be a little less likely to pass anything on. Depending on how vulnerable the people you work with are, you might want to drop the car journeys for now as they are the most high risk.thing you've described.

Lots of people are stressed with lockdown, it's hard to tell what risks he's taking from your OP. If he's meeting more people outside, or one family inside... then it's higher risk but understandable to help him.get by. If he's going to illegal clubs and parties then he's just a dickhead and personally I wouldn't want to be with someone like that.

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HoleInBucket · 13/03/2021 14:29

Thank you for the replies.

I don't want to risk covid, even now after a vaccine just in case I transmit it onwards. I want to help other people as much as possible and I don't want to harm other people.

He is not going to parties or crowds. He is very relaxed about the masks and social distancing. He refused to maintain the social distancing in a queue recently and nearly was so close to someone he might as well be breathing on their neck. He is meeting more people and meeting more of his family and indoors. I can't believe he is doing this because I fear his judgement might be poor and I fear he may contract the virus. He has a beautiful sister who is pregnant and he doesn't care about trying to minimise the chances of plucking up virus.

I will drop the car journeys for now to keep myself and my work circle as safe as possible. Disappointing because I was going to book a night away but I can't now if he's breaking lockdown more.

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Frequency · 13/03/2021 14:32

Two of our carers got Covid after the vaccination. Their symptoms were mild/non existant. Non of the residents tested positive afterwards even though both carers were in work and had been all day when their positive test results came back.

NB: They had no symptoms and are tested weekly as precaution. They were not willingly endangering residents by going to work with symptoms.

lljkk · 13/03/2021 15:20

Transmission goes down about 66-70% after vaccination

...In a strong-virus-controls situation.
Not even Sweden is doing 'nothing' about covid now.
I wonder if measurable vaccine effectiveness would be lower if we were allowed normal levels of social contact.

Jenasaurus · 13/03/2021 15:26

My DS caught Covid 10 weeks after the first jab so due his 2nd one, he caught it from his fiance who is an occupational therapist and despite wearing PPE caught it from her patient who tested positive. Both my DS and his fiance had ahad the vaccine, my DS in December due to being NHS and Asthmatic, his Fiance had her jab the same week she caught COVID. My DS had it very mild, a sore throat and fatigue for 2 days and only discovered he had it from his lateral flow tests he does for work. His fiance was very unwell with it, and even after she had recovered and was back at work, passed out and was sent home.

My son beleives he caught it so mildly because he had had the vaccine.

My DD works at a nursery and all her collegues caught Covid the week before half term except for one who had already had the vaccine, I beleive it is effective in reducing the chances of catching it and also making it mild if you do still catch it. My DS and his GF both had the Pfizer Jab

Athinginitself · 13/03/2021 23:11

DP got covid a month after his 1st vaccination. He was quite unwell, like having proper flu, in bed for a week and had an awful cough. Hes recovering fine but still v tired.

notrub · 13/03/2021 23:19

Transmission goes down about 66-70% after vaccination

Source please?

I believe they have only been able to guess at this based on numbers vaccinated, but THAT assumes no change to behaviours in the population studied. I'd expect transmission to actually fall around 80+% the same as those NOT testing positive as it's HIGHLY unlikely you could test -ve but be contagious!

OP - if you're vaccinated, past 2 weeks then your ability to pass on the virus is severely curtailed. The younger you are, the more likely it is you won't get infected sufficiently to infect others. So even if your partner DID get infected, and DID infect you, your co-workers are reasonably safe.

As an aside, you may want to consider whether or not a partner with this attitude is really one you want... not an easy decision I appreciate.

MRex · 14/03/2021 06:41

@notrub

Transmission goes down about 66-70% after vaccination

Source please?

As an aside, you may want to consider whether or not a partner with this attitude is really one you want... not an easy decision I appreciate.

No guessing. Oxford AZ did PCR swab tests as a trial: www.gponline.com/one-dose-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-cut-transmission-67/article/1706307 finding 67% less transmission. There's been additional Pfizer study I'd missed that has better results than the last one at 75%: www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/26/single-pfizer-jab-can-reduce-asymptomatic-covid-infections-by-75.

Foreverlexicon · 14/03/2021 06:46

My 65 year old dad had covid 3 weeks after the AZ first dose.

He had 1 day of a fever at 38.2 and then was fine. Compared to young, healthy colleagues of mine, that was far milder.

HereComesATractor · 14/03/2021 07:16

A friend’s husband caught it from her a couple of weeks after his vaccine - they were isolating as a household at that point as she had tested positive. I don’t think he had quite reached the three weeks post vaccine. He had a couple of days of temperature and feeling like he had a bad cold. She felt much worse poor thing.

HereComesATractor · 14/03/2021 07:17

(He had the vaccine as he is a doctor - he isn’t CV)

WanderingFruitWonderer · 14/03/2021 08:55

I keep hearing mixed messages about possible transmission reduction rates. I've heard around 70% too. But apparently there's no definitive evidence yet. Not yet peer reviewed. So it could be anything from 0% to 100%. It's just not clearly known at this point. Hopefully we'll know soon, as I know many people, myself included, are thinking of getting vaccinated purely based on this.
I didn't initially want to be vaccinated, as I'm a vegan, and utterly horrified by the animal testing. I'm very low risk for Covid. The one and only reason I'd get vaccinated is to protect others. So data on transmission reduction rates post-vaccine is really important to me. I hope we have a clearer idea soon...

MRex · 14/03/2021 09:19

@WanderingFruitWonderer

I keep hearing mixed messages about possible transmission reduction rates. I've heard around 70% too. But apparently there's no definitive evidence yet. Not yet peer reviewed. So it could be anything from 0% to 100%. It's just not clearly known at this point. Hopefully we'll know soon, as I know many people, myself included, are thinking of getting vaccinated purely based on this. I didn't initially want to be vaccinated, as I'm a vegan, and utterly horrified by the animal testing. I'm very low risk for Covid. The one and only reason I'd get vaccinated is to protect others. So data on transmission reduction rates post-vaccine is really important to me. I hope we have a clearer idea soon...

Why don't you believe the research? It would be very hard to make up that type of info. Look at Israel: www.ft.com/content/4cf1b235-ed07-4ffe-bab4-95846a0ecf36.

You really don't know that you'll be fine, and you will get older with risk factors increasing every year.

WanderingFruitWonderer · 14/03/2021 09:36

@MRex my current understanding is that it's not definitive research. It's just conjecture based on data emerging from Israel and Scotland? Even our own government's website says they can't be certain yet of significant transmission reduction. That's why people are still being asked to follow the rules once they themselves are immune.
I do plan to have the vaccine don't worry. I'm by no means anti-vax. More pro-vax if anything, though with some caveats.
But I like to be fully informed, and hope the data will be clearer before I get offered my first jab. Which I estimate will be May or June...
Thank you for the link

MRex · 14/03/2021 09:42

"Conjecture" is not correct because that suggests people developing a theory rather than examining actual evidence. See my other links above @WanderingFruitWonderer, there is specific research that's been done as well. It's all good news.

FeedMeSantiago · 14/03/2021 10:45

My clinically vulnerable cousin caught Covid 3 weeks after her vaccine (group 6). 4 weeks on she is in hospital on oxygen as is her husband. Both early 50s and my cousin is diabetic plus other conditions.

Jenasaurus · 14/03/2021 10:54

@FeedMeSantiago

I am so sorry to hear that FeedMeSantiago I hope your cousing and her husband get better soon. Can I ask which vaccine she had?

Boph · 14/03/2021 11:00

Firstly anyone who tests positive within a couple of weeks of their vaccine isn't really immunised as it takes 2 to 3 weeks to work.

I don't think the vaccine was tested on the CEV. As well as being more vulnerable to begin with they are also the group in which the vaccine is less likely to produce antibodies.
I presume they are now studying this group as there was a report last week about lack of response to the vaccine in cancer patients.

Littlegoth · 14/03/2021 11:25

Cousin and her partner got covid 3 weeks after the first jab. They said it was the worst illness they’d ever had, and had stabbing chest pains, heart pains and difficulty breathing. Neither are vulnerable, in fact one is about to climb a series of mountains for charity.

Jenasaurus · 14/03/2021 12:17

www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/holmesley-care-home-covid-outbreak-5144288

Just read this and its a bit of a concern. All residents had had their first jab and were about to have their second, 33 caught Covid and 3 died, its being investigated by Police, and they have having post mortems, so either they suspect foul play or maybe had a dodgy batch of vaccine, its a concern though.

Jenasaurus · 14/03/2021 12:20

And another outbreak in Devon,this time in Exmouth, again in a care home and all residents had been vaccinated. As all in Devon does this suggest the vaccine was a bad batch

www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/nine-covid-19-deaths-exmouth-5156936

FeedMeSantiago · 14/03/2021 14:34

@Jenasaurus - I believe it was the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine my cousin had.

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HoleInBucket · 14/03/2021 15:00

Thank you so much for all of the replies. I feel blessed to have the vaccine in me but I still have duty of care towards others.

I'm horrified of his new attitude of not caring about the lockdown and restrictions and he never considered the idea of spreading the virus onto others even though some of his family would be vulnerable.

I'm going to reduce indoor/inclosed/car environment with him going forward and take it from there. Definitely we are polar opposites now. I like to consider others and reduce risk of exposure and spread and he is the opposite. He doesn't care any more.

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