Care home outbreaks in Devon.

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One, which have now lost 9 residents recently to covid. They have all had their vaccination. I know you can still get it after the vaccine but I thought it protected enough not to get seriously ill? They are well over the amount of time where the vaccine starts working properly.

Is the vaccine not protecting against the new variants?

Oh dear, that’s so sad. Elderly people generally have weaker reactions to vaccinations, but I thought they would be more protective.Where in Devon is this?

I think it’s in Sidmouth

I wonder how long ago they had their vaccine? Either way, it’s very sad. :( Unfortunately, some older people are very frail and can’t cope with even mild illness due to health conditions. Sadly, I think Covid will remain a problem in care homes for some time to come.

A family friend at 75, with one vaccination caught COVID. ( probably in hospital when he was there for something else) and was 2 weeks in hospital - not in ICU but on oxygen and now, almost 2 months later, still exhausted and breathing with difficulty. He was very healthy and vigorous.

This is a nasty disease.

Have these residents had both doses OP?

How do you know about this?

It has been on the local news
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56366575

There is also another outbreak
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56372847

No mention in either article as to whether residents had been vaccinated/which vaccine.

The first article says that all residents had the first dose in January.

If the residents had their first dose in January, thanks to the governments plan of 3 months between doses, it could well be that most or some have not yet had their second dose (plus it takes a little time after the vaccination to reach full effectiveness, it isn’t infant!).

Both articles mentioned that most staff and residents have had the vaccine.

The staff and families must be so devastated to have come so far and then pass away just when things begin to look brighter.

Both articles mentioned that most staff and residents have had the vaccine.

Just to be pedantic, both articles only talk about a first dose. Whilst it would have been hoped that this might be enough, it is not the same as being fully vaccinated.

They had one dose in the 1st report.

I wonder if they were hospitalised as they say the vax protects against that. They could have still only been mildly ill but it been enough with fraility.
Also covid rates in devon etc have been so low that most care homes escaped i expect leaving more vulnerable there than elsewhere. That could also be the case for eg with flu so ending up with more surviving frailer people.
Some people in sweden were so frail they couldnt even cope with the vax effects.

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I wonder how long ago they had their vaccine? Either way, it’s very sad. :( Unfortunately, some older people are very frail and can’t cope with even mild illness due to health conditions. Sadly, I think Covid will remain a problem in care homes for some time to come.

Agreed. It doesn't warrant lockdown

Also, January first vaccine, it takes 3weeks to get decent protection... maybe they got covid within that 3weeks. We know a lot of deaths occurs weeks after the symptoms develop

The article says they had their first dose “in January” and became in in Feb. Depending on the dates, it is entirely possible this was within the 3 week window before protection kicks in.

Depends whether they developed antibodies from the vaccine or not. If they are very frail and elderly then perhaps they didn't. It's very sad.

Happened in another care home.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-55840781

I was about to point out what Motorina did!

@Nerdygirl - I have a relative in that carehome. Sadly covid got in about a week and a half after their first vaccines back in January. My Gran-in-law was fine thankfully, had it very mildly. The doctors all said that their immune systems just hadn’t had chance to become fully effective yet & that it takes 3-4 weeks. Particularly in older people. The residents were just really unlucky it hasn’t been that long 😓

[quote HolmeH]@Nerdygirl - I have a relative in that carehome. Sadly covid got in about a week and a half after their first vaccines back in January. My Gran-in-law was fine thankfully, had it very mildly. The doctors all said that their immune systems just hadn’t had chance to become fully effective yet & that it takes 3-4 weeks. Particularly in older people. The residents were just really unlucky it hasn’t been that long 😓[/quote]
I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm glad your relative is ok.

There seems to be 3 in the same area and a police investigation is happening in one of them. :-(

Has happened in several care homes around the country unfortunately

Very sad