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Hospital visiting

26 replies

andisaidgo · 05/03/2021 22:39

Does anyone have an idea when the hospitals specifically a neuro-rehab hospital is likely to resume visiting? I have not seen my daughter since last July. I know I can Skype but I want to be with her.

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Mindymomo · 06/03/2021 09:59

Sorry no idea, but with hospital cases falling each week, I hope you can see her soon, but doubt if it would be before 12 April.

Bubbles2go · 21/03/2021 22:29

My mum is in neuro rehab after suffering from a stroke 2 weeks ago. She is so distressed we can’t visit, I really hope they open up soon.

andisaidgo · 21/03/2021 22:42

Bubbles2go

It's really heartbreaking, isn't it? I hope you get to see her soon

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YellowPurple · 21/03/2021 22:52

If the hospital doesnt yet know,
We are very unlikely to know any more than them

andisaidgo · 21/03/2021 23:05

They don't seem to want to indicate a possible time either when they might allow visiting it has been a year since I have seen my daughter except for a brief socially distanced visit. She has had COVID got it in the hospital and the first jab as I have. Still silence on the possibility of even considering when I might see her. It's inhumane.

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Bubbles2go · 22/03/2021 09:11

Its horrendous, its so distressing for my mum, she is confused as it is so this is making it so much worse. Im so sorry you haven't seen your daughter for a year.

StarCat2020 · 23/03/2021 18:25

Could you speak to your MP and see if they could help you at all?

If your DD has been in the hospital more than a year then I (personally) would view that as more akin to being in a care home and visits are now starting again.

ElphabaTheGreen · 23/03/2021 18:32

I work in a neuro hospital. Our current roadmap is tentatively suggesting allowing one visitor per day from 12 April, all else going to plan with easing of lockdown.

We hate not having visitors and, if it’s any consolation, it’s no different when you’re NHS staff. We got to watch my DFIL wasting away and dying on the other side of an iPad from November to February. He had terrible post op complications and was so ill he couldn’t even text us even though he was fully conscious. DMIL and DH had to rely on my interpretations of everything I could glean by phone from the staff and eventually they were only allowed in to see him three days before he died once he was on end of life. The DCs and I never got to say goodbye to him. It was utterly barbaric. We don’t for a minute question why it had to be that way, but it was just awful so sympathies to all of you suffering without visiting Flowers

Bubbles2go · 23/03/2021 19:11

@ElphabaTheGreen

I work in a neuro hospital. Our current roadmap is tentatively suggesting allowing one visitor per day from 12 April, all else going to plan with easing of lockdown.

We hate not having visitors and, if it’s any consolation, it’s no different when you’re NHS staff. We got to watch my DFIL wasting away and dying on the other side of an iPad from November to February. He had terrible post op complications and was so ill he couldn’t even text us even though he was fully conscious. DMIL and DH had to rely on my interpretations of everything I could glean by phone from the staff and eventually they were only allowed in to see him three days before he died once he was on end of life. The DCs and I never got to say goodbye to him. It was utterly barbaric. We don’t for a minute question why it had to be that way, but it was just awful so sympathies to all of you suffering without visiting Flowers

Thanks so much for your response, I really do hope they allow one visitor from 12 April as at least that gives us something to aim for.

I am so sorry to hear about your DFIL it really is awful they could only see him three days before he died, it must have been so traumatic for you all.

vgx4 · 23/03/2021 19:17

I've written to my MP and it hasn't made any difference. I haven't seen my DH for 7 months either except on FaceTime. Horrendous situation, like a previous poster, I'm NHS clinical too.

vgx4 · 23/03/2021 19:38

@andisaidgo
To add to that further, the chief executive wrote back to my MP and detailed all the reasons why visiting can't be permitted. Exactly the same letter as when I've contacted the CE before via PALs, re lack of visiting.

I've also emailed the DoH, Matt Hancock, Boris Johnson's office and applied to have a question asked at the Covid daily briefing on when hospital visiting will be allowed. There is zero information in the government website re when hospital visiting will be allowed.

What I have been told is that a care home cannot be compared to an acute hospital trust re visiting. Also, each hospital trust can set their own rules. My DH's hospital trust state 'No date for visiting yet but we'll et you know when it's safe to do so'. I've had both Pfizer's but doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

StarCat2020 · 23/03/2021 19:57

@vgx4
I am genuinely sorry that you have tried everything and got nowhere.

I am honestly ashamed of my naivety when I suggested contacting MPs.

Peachee · 23/03/2021 20:03

Gosh what a heartbreaking thread. I agree the whole thing is completely inhumane. I can’t believe this kind of thing is happening and better systems and measures aren’t put in place for people to see their loved ones.. . Love to you all x

vgx4 · 23/03/2021 20:11

@andisaidgo @Bubbles2go @ElphabaTheGreen
Does anybody know of a pressure group to lobby for this?

Bubbles2go · 23/03/2021 20:23

I don’t know if any pressure groups but if anyone does sign me up. My poor mum is so distressed and confused, I’m constantly checking the hospital website but it’s never updated it just says no visiting allowed and the government site is useless. It’s just so horrendous. I even put the question in to the covid briefing but it’s never selected.

ElphabaTheGreen · 24/03/2021 02:02

I wouldn’t personally be going to any pressure groups, despite our awful experience. I don’t disagree with the no visiting policies, I’m afraid. There is no way I’d have let my 70yo asthmatic MIL visit FIL on his ITU despite everything, despite him being on the non-Covid green side, until it was clear he was going. I wasn’t going to have DH risk losing both parents. I was top of the list of people they weren’t letting in as NHS frontline staff in a different hospital, despite my early vaccination, despite my constant PCR/lateral flow testing and they were right.

I work on acute inpatient wards. The third wave was just awful - we lost so many patients and virtually all of the remaining staff that hadn’t had it already got it, some got it a second time. It’s to protect staff as well as patients and visitors. Even if you’ve had jabs, even if the patient has had Covid, their nurse/HCA/therapist might not have. I’ve escaped it (so far, touch wood, by some miracle) and I’m clinically vulnerable, bordering on CEV, yet I’m still in the face of it every day. I don’t need any more exposure than I already get. The more traffic we have through hospitals, the more it spreads. I think the current roadmap is right, given the current infection rates.

Have you asked for outside visiting? Our more mobile patients arrange to meet family members out the front of the hospital (a lot of the time without our knowledge, TBH). The less mobile ones, we’ve pushed outside in a chair so they can see a family member, now that the weather’s improving. No touching or hugging, but it’s better than FaceTime.

vgx4 · 24/03/2021 09:37

Imagine you are a Hospital doctor working literally in the next ward to ITU where your DH is fighting for his life. You're not allowed to visit him, but you've operated on patients next door all through the pandemic in level 3 PPE.

I don't know how to reconcile this situation @ElphabaTheGreen. I do know I have explored every option but this is something I'll have to live with.
I feel quite bitter towards the Trust I work for tbh although it's not really a rational thought.

For outdoor visits in our Hospital Trust, patients have to be able to sit in a wheelchair of some variety. This requires a degree of core abdominal muscular control which patients who've been in ITU for prolonged periods aren't capable of without intensive physio over many months.

ElphabaTheGreen · 24/03/2021 10:53

That’s crackers vgx4 if you’re in the same hospital. DFIL was in a different one to where I work, so I totally get it.

I’m an OT so my stock in trade is getting patients on wheels, including ITU patients. We get C5 complete tetras outside for visiting in the right seating - it can be done, depending on attachments. Core stability doesn’t have to enter into it.

Just cast an eye over our Trust’s roadmap - it’s actually 29 March that they hoping to allow one named visitor per patient, so the end may be in sight...

vgx4 · 24/03/2021 11:03

Yes, it's completely nonsensical in my individual situation , but my Trust will not make any exceptions to their visiting policy. God knows I've tried everything.
The local rates of Covid are also taken into account when deciding to lift individual Trust visiting restrictions. I really hope they're low enough here by 29th March, to facilitate visiting 🤞

StarCat2020 · 24/03/2021 12:42

I feel quite bitter towards the Trust I work for tbh although it's not really a rational thought
I am bitter and angry at your trust on your behalf.

Your feelings are not at all irrational.

I would have exploded over this which shows that you are a better person than I am.

vgx4 · 29/03/2021 11:57

Anyone on this thread heard any news about visiting?
I see that Sheffield Teaching Hospitals are allowing 1 visitor for 1 hour from today in all their hospitals. Unfortunately, this isn't mine/ my DH's Hospital Trust.
Hopefully it's a sign that hospital visiting is imminent 🤞🤞

Bubbles2go · 29/03/2021 12:15

@vgx4

Anyone on this thread heard any news about visiting? I see that Sheffield Teaching Hospitals are allowing 1 visitor for 1 hour from today in all their hospitals. Unfortunately, this isn't mine/ my DH's Hospital Trust. Hopefully it's a sign that hospital visiting is imminent 🤞🤞
Nothing yet, I keep looking daily. I’m waiting for Leeds General and really hoping it’s soon.
vgx4 · 29/03/2021 12:18

I have heard a rumour that there is a big hospital board meeting today, so let's hope we all have good news today/ tomorrow. 🙏

ACovidofWitches · 29/03/2021 12:25

I have my fingers crossed for you. Everyone has had a rough time of it in the last year but some have definitely had it much harder than others. You must be frantic on one level. I'm so sorry.

moochingtothepub · 29/03/2021 12:32

I would pressurise for an answer, mp is a good suggestion.

Some care situations have started allowing them - we are going tomorrow (residential ld and cev)