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I worry about people's mental health on here if the government fuck it up as usual

53 replies

ssd · 22/02/2021 18:35

Just back from work, shocked at what 'Boris' is doing regards lockdown lifting

Posters here seem to totally believe everything is going to be fine, the relief is tangible

I know I'm wary, but jesus , all schools back etc, mutations rampant, yet 'Boris' says it's fine so waaayyyhaaayyyy

If/when things go haywire, I worry for posters mental health, I dont think so many in here can take another disappointment

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Regulus · 22/02/2021 18:37

They will cope. I was told repeatedly that I.was scaremongering and should be banned when I said that there would be another lockdown. People cope, they always have because whats the choice?

ThursdayLastWeek · 22/02/2021 18:38

I just need some respite from the boredom now. I’m happy to accept that this probably won’t be 'irreversible'. But I find it easier to go back into lockdown after some freedom, than have a longer one now.

ssd · 22/02/2021 18:39

I know. But theres euphoria now, not just hope. I worry what happens when it goes tits up.

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SandysMam · 22/02/2021 18:41

I don’t think people are that stupid that they really believe opening up means the virus is gone. They are just excited at things looking more positive than they have in a while. If anyone is truly shocked if the virus spreads again, they must be terribly naive surely?
Today is a good day, time to start enjoying those a bit and dealing with the bad when they happen.

AlohaMolly · 22/02/2021 18:41

The vaccines minister was on tv this morning saying that opening schools on 8th March was totally safe and they’d chosen that date because it was three weeks after the over 50s have been vaccinated in mid April.

It blows my mind that there was this sort of fuck up and that people are still trusting this latest update.

vaxmeup · 22/02/2021 18:44

I think people are just really fed up and are clinging on to any hopes of 'normality' returning. I don't blame them but personally I remain cautious- all the scenarios for unlocking result in tens of thousands more deaths and I can't get my head around that.

Nellodee · 22/02/2021 18:45

There's literally no point in worrying. We are where we are. We've got on this aeroplane, we're not the pilot, we're just in for the ride and will either crash or get off the other side into the sunlight. Maybe it will be fine, maybe it won't be, but there's no point worrying.

When we had lockdown 2, under the old variant, I did not think cases would drop whilst schools were still open. They did drop.

At this point, we just need to hope Johnson has made the right call. He may well have - it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

ComDummings · 22/02/2021 18:45

@vaxmeup

I think people are just really fed up and are clinging on to any hopes of 'normality' returning. I don't blame them but personally I remain cautious- all the scenarios for unlocking result in tens of thousands more deaths and I can't get my head around that.
I agree with you @vaxmeup
HelloThereMeHearties · 22/02/2021 18:48

I don't think you do actually "worry for posters mental health" if it all goes "haywire", as you seem determined that it will.

Why don't you let us worry about our mental health, and you sort yours out?

StepOutOfLine · 22/02/2021 18:49

@AlohaMolly

The vaccines minister was on tv this morning saying that opening schools on 8th March was totally safe and they’d chosen that date because it was three weeks after the over 50s have been vaccinated in mid April.

It blows my mind that there was this sort of fuck up and that people are still trusting this latest update.

Bloody hell, I missed that. I think cautious optimism is fine, truly. But it concerns me how gaslighted people really have been, and continue to be when there's now been almost a year of the most awful mistakes. Fingers crossed I suppose.
Useruseruserusee · 22/02/2021 18:49

@Nellodee

There's literally no point in worrying. We are where we are. We've got on this aeroplane, we're not the pilot, we're just in for the ride and will either crash or get off the other side into the sunlight. Maybe it will be fine, maybe it won't be, but there's no point worrying.

When we had lockdown 2, under the old variant, I did not think cases would drop whilst schools were still open. They did drop.

At this point, we just need to hope Johnson has made the right call. He may well have - it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

That’s exactly where I am @Nellodee, well said!
Hairwizard · 22/02/2021 18:50

The fuck will i be complying with another bs lockdown.
Anyone who is all for more lockdowns... well i wont say any more.

User133847 · 22/02/2021 18:51

I think things will be relatively fine over summer, even if there are cases about, the vaccines will keep deaths and hospitalisations way down.

The concern is mass travel bringing back loads of variants and another bad winter.

SittinOnTheDockOfTheBay · 22/02/2021 18:52

They're just letting us free again before everyone goes nuts. Don't forget, if the Brits are going to riot, they only do it in summer. Fully expecting another lock down in September.

MrBullinaChinaShop · 22/02/2021 18:52

Why shocked at what Boris is doing? It’s actually fairly slow/cautious.... schools is obviously the big one but bar outdoor sport and outdoor socialising in small groups, which we know is low risk, nothing else really changes for the next 2 months. Even Sage have said that based on the success of vaccines, reopening could be quicker.
People are pleased, of course they are. There is finally a glimmer of hope. If things change then they change. Yes that will be shit, but it’s hardly like the past year has been a barrel of laughs.
I have to say I’m more worried for the mental health of those who are still seriously anxious leaving the house. I think it will take a lot for them to start to resume a normal life.

gallbladderpain · 22/02/2021 18:53

I've been feeling optomistic about summer for quite a while now (and my posting history on here with regards to schools not opening safely may make people think otherwise) I said last March when everyone was going on about schools being back after Easter 20 (ha!) that this would go on for many months/years so aparently that makes me a 'doom and gloom'

I do think we know more about the virus now though, last year over the summer case rates were really low, it almost proved the seasonal side of it. We have the vaccines now (despite some not being able to get them - I have a vulnerable child who won't be vaccinated) and hopefully there will be a huge uptake among the 'young, healthy' population of adults to reduce transmission overall for those who can't be vaccinated. I think all these things together are of course positive and we are stepping closer to the end of this !

However I do worry about setting dates for things. Boris has a tendency to do this and to increase peoples hope and then for it all to be dashed again would be the final straw. He's made at least 3-4 date promises so far, I mean by November 2020 we were going to back to normal and social distancing was going to be over, so I do take that with a pinch of salt. It's nice to have some hope that it is coming to an end but I think people would do well not to become hung up on the dates.

chocolateisavegetable · 22/02/2021 18:55

I'm amazed that the R number isn't one of the criteria for deciding to proceed with the next stage of easing lockdown!

HelloThereMeHearties · 22/02/2021 18:56

Fuxache. Can't we have ONE DAY, maybe even ONE EVENING, of feeling happy and hopeful?

MrBullinaChinaShop · 22/02/2021 18:58

@chocolateisavegetable

I'm amazed that the R number isn't one of the criteria for deciding to proceed with the next stage of easing lockdown!
The R number refers to number of cases. They will no longer be the measure of top importance once people are vaccinated... the number of people requiring hospital treatment will be far more important. If people are only getting mild symptoms, the number of cases becomes far less relevant.
SummerHouse · 22/02/2021 18:59

I worry for the posters who have no hope and no faith. Surely it's better to be positive and wrong than negative and right? But there's also the possibility of being positive and right. I just heard on the radio that studies have found both vaccines give 75% protection from dying or hospitalisation after the first dose. This is excellent. Worry not for my mental health. If the relaxation of the rules is wrong and they have to u turn I am fine with that. What I could not live with is constant fear and expectation of another wave.

gallbladderpain · 22/02/2021 19:01

@chocolateisavegetable

I'm amazed that the R number isn't one of the criteria for deciding to proceed with the next stage of easing lockdown!
That is one of the things that worries me the most, because as per usual it hasn't been mentioned or addressed about the clinically vunerable children who will not have been vaccinated. So really if the virus is growing rapidly among the 'healthy' population and we have cases in the tens or hundreds of thousands a day, there will be vunerable people caught in the crossfire. It almost feels like it will be more unsafe for those people than it has been at any point up until now ! That concerns me.
Milkshake7489 · 22/02/2021 19:04

@Regulus the thing is people don't always cope, even when "there's no other choice".

Some people have breakdowns, mental health crisis', and sometimes they take their own lives... and that's in normal times when they can see friends and family and access more mental health services.

Downriver · 22/02/2021 19:05

How can it possibly be better to be positive and wrong than negative and right. That is totally insane. You along with half the country have lost your mind.

user18467425798532 · 22/02/2021 19:05

Surely it's better to be positive and wrong than negative and right?

For some people, yes. For others, no.

MrBullinaChinaShop · 22/02/2021 19:06

@Downriver

How can it possibly be better to be positive and wrong than negative and right. That is totally insane. You along with half the country have lost your mind.
Because you don’t live your life in a state of constant negativity? It’s not good for you.