As there’s over 1000 hospitals in the UK and 18,000 inpatients with coronavirus are hospitals still overrun?

[katieloves]

Not sure of the exact number of hospital beds there are, but at least 150,000. If 18,000 people are currently in hospital with coronavirus this equates to approximately 18 people per hospital. Are hospitals therefore still overwhelmed considering also that we’ve had no flu this year?

Ours[not saying where] is at half of what it was at it's peak. So no. Depends what you mean by overrun though, I suppose.

I don’t think you can count every hospital though? We have a small community hospital with one ward, it’s not set up for acute or medical emergencies. And even in the nearest city one of the hospitals is an orthopaedic one, it’s a big place but anyone whose very ill has to be transferred to the other.

Our hospital is now in a good place. Only very recently though. I am expecting when I go in to work tomorrow my ward will no longer be the main covid ward. It was a very large ward and was running at half capacity so we were expecting them to make another, smaller ward hot and we woukd go back to business as usual, which after a year seems very surreal.

I mean full or close to full.

Hospitals are not overrun. You can be absolutely certain that if any hospital were genuinely overwhelmed, the MSM would be reporting it round the clock.

One of the many things that astound me in this shitshow we’re living, is that of the HALF A TRILLION pounds that has been spent, fuck all has been invested in the root problem (insufficient NHS capacity).

My hospital is in a good place - 50% less covid capacity, reducing each day and non essential work opening up again. I think it'll be even better in a few weeks time. A hospital near us in a rural area has no covid at all in hospital.

I don’t think you can count every hospital though

I didn’t. There’s actually well over 1000 - more like 1,250.

Manchester hospitals are close to full, though this is partly due to starting to send recovering patients back to their local hospitals now the pressure is off hospitals in the South. This is from Trafford Data Lab:

I've just googled and found something about there being 180 operating hospitals with an A&E in England.
Feel free to enlighten me if this is incorrect

There’s 223 NHS trusts with multiple hospitals each. In 2019 there were nearly 150,000 consultant led beds.

I’m in Essex and the number of hospital beds occupied by Covid patients has dropped dramatically. As the peak there were almost 1400 beds occupied by Covid patients. As at 16 February it was less than 600.

It's not just the number of patients but the need to isolate covid patients from others. They could have just one covid patients in a hospital but they can't put other vulnerable ICU patients in the next bed - which then has a knock on effect on other treatment like cancel surgeries.

When they were planning vaccine hubs in hospitals, there were 53 hospitals identified as large enough. Small hospitals will not be treating acutely ill coronavirus patients. Only large hospitals will have the facilities and an ICU. Private hospitals won't have any coronavirus patients and hardly any have an ICU.
So the number of hospitals treating coronavirus patients is a fraction of the number OP quotes.
I think most large hospitals still have more than a hundred coronavirus patients.

My local hospital has 219 total inpatients with covid and 82 of them are in critical care. 124 critical care patients in total currently. Their usual
ITU capacity is 104 beds so that’s a massive impact on the ability to do things like major surgery that is planned but requires an ITU bed.

@nordica

It's not just the number of patients but the need to isolate covid patients from others. They could have just one covid patients in a hospital but they can't put other vulnerable ICU patients in the next bed - which then has a knock on effect on other treatment like cancel surgeries.

Utter bollocks. Strangely enough, hospitals can cope perfectly well with one infectious person - do you seriously think that pre-covid no hospital ever had to isolate a patient? How the fuck do you think they deal with TB or measles?

Where do people get this nonsense from???

Infectious disease wards aren't what they once were, though, are they? Pre pandemic, in some it was likely to be a double door side room from a general medical ward.

I think one of the legacies of this will be that provision for infectious diseases in hospitals will improve

Whether your local hospital is thinning out depends on which hospital you are talking about. Done have seen falls, but that might leave the back at capacity, not struggling beyond it. Too many ICUs are full, with staff that should be 1:2 being at 1:4 (rarely the 1:6 that was the case in recent weeks)

This is a tricky time. Another surge of transmission in a partly vaccinated population is one of the very riskiest times in terms of it being the sort of conditions which favour new variants. Dr Chris Van Tulleken has tweeted about these risks.

The official number that the NHS is classed as overwhelmed at is 25,000. The numbers are still high but thankfully well under this number now.

Can I ask, where do you get the data for your individual hospitals?

@TwirpingBird

Can I ask, where do you get the data for your individual hospitals?

Local TV news. I rarely listen to it It mentioned last week that it was at half capacity of the peak. Someone I know, knew what the peak figure was.