Do people really think all will be ok in the next few years ?

[LemonSherbetFancies]

You've got people saying this will never end and then others who seem to think that it will all be over by July with no restrictions. I have been in both camps.
I am definitely of the belief that restrictions will be eased and we will have more freedom. But I also think that there is a going to be a huge knock on effect which will last for years as well as an ever widening divide between the rich and poor.
I think long term unemployment, mental health and economic fall out will be beyond what we realise.
I do think eventually we will recover as a country but it will take years. I am surprised at those who think this will all be done and dusted by the end of the year and into 2022. Maybe it's the middle classness of Mumsnet with many people working from home and saving money? Just think some are in for a shock.

I reckon will be "ok" if we go for 'Live with covid' rather than 'zero covid'. Zero-covid is inherently not sustainable and would require a constant level of highly intrusive interventions for many years.

I guess if you think over a 5-10 yr period then it will be 'ok' even if Zero-covid is pursued. We'll have adapted to the worst of Zero covid if it goes on that long.

But the temperature is really important. All hospital bedding is washed at 90 degrees because of this. Drying in a tumble dryer also helps.

www.dettol.co.uk/expert-advice/areas-of-home/4-popular-laundry-myths-busted/

@bridgertonian

I’m hoping that actually one of the knock ons might be people appreciating the simpler things in life....walks in the country, holidays closer to home, being able to meet up with friends and family....if this summer is similar to last in terms of restrictions I’d be happy with that. The biggest downside I think is the gap between rich and poor and unfortunately COVID has only exacerbated this.

So many people are utterly fucking sick of bloody walking and paying over-priced holidays in the UK where the weather is often shit.

www.persil.com/uk/laundry/laundry-tips/fabrics/top-tips-disinfect-clothes-ill.html

And here. Please say you aren’t washing your masks at 30 degrees? They should be at least washed at 60 like towels and bedding.

How to wash a face mask by Ginetex. The international company responsible for textile care symbols in conjunction with ISO and BSI. Wash at 60 degrees

www.ginetex.net/article/GB/how-to-clean-a-fabric-face-mask-in-the-time-of-covid-19

Washing at high temps seems likely to deteriorate the fabric more quickly, damage the fabric as in expand the average pore size. Those pores that wee virons might get thru.

I imagine Tumble driers will degrade the fabric, too.

But washing at low doesn’t kill the virus, but head dies degrade the fabric unless it’s really strong fabric. Which is why hospitals use disposables.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

They do need to be washed at a high temperature to kill the virus.

Why else is hospital bedding washed on 90 degrees?

I teach Textile science, it’s a combination of temperature and soap which kill germs, not just soap. Temperature is the most important thing. Ideally they should be bleached too.

A low temperature wash doesn’t attack germs. You need a minimum of 60.

I thought the whole point with covid is we don't need to 'kill germs' we can damage the outer layer of the virus with soap, which was one of the few positive things - we don't need to bleach it away, we can wash it away.

If washing it wasn't sufficient, we wouldn't have been able to wash it off our hands with regular soap.

Willing to be corrected, I'm not a virus expert!

blogs.webmd.com/public-health/20200828/does-cleaning-in-a-washing-machine-kill-covid

This was basically good enough for me, and I am at the cautious end of the covid spectrum.