Vaccines appear to cut tranmissions and infections

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According to The Telegraph and reported here
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/exclusive-the-covid-vaccines-data-that-can-pave-way-to-freedom/ar-BB1dOb5M?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ

@LetsPlayBamboozled

It would be surprising if it didn't, the only real uncertainty is by how much...

The good news is the data from Israel suggests that it will do so significantly:
mobile.twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1362414282097516545

Hopefully we will get to see the actual PHE data for England soon too, now that it's been leaked to 3 different newspapers...

According to that it's a reduction in transmission by two thirds off just one dose. That's fantastic!

Of course they do - all vaccines cut transmission. It’s one of the repeated misunderstandings of science throughout the pandemic: ‘we have no data yet on this phenomenon’, interpreted by the media as ‘this phenomenon does not occur’.

But 2/3 on one dose is very promising.

The vaccines appear to be excellent news.

We just need patience and sense now (and a decent government) in order to maximise the potential to get out of this mess, rather than rushing at it and fucking it up with a variant.

I feel more hopeful than I have for ages.

Yes, it's infuriating how many times people on these threads write 'vaccines don't reduce transmission'
Usually explaining why we should stay locked up until we're sure no one will ever die ever again.

@starfish88

According to that it's a reduction in transmission by two thirds off just one dose. That's fantastic!

That is very good

Especially with one dose

@StealthPolarBear

Yes, it's infuriating how many times people on these threads write 'vaccines don't reduce transmission' Usually explaining why we should stay locked up until we're sure no one will ever die ever again.

That’s the messaging we’ve been fed though! We’re not all virologists.

I suspect they’ve known this for ages. What would be the point of conversations about vaccine passports otherwise?

This is such good news !

YAYYYYY!

I’ll join in for a Friday celebration and some good news for a change. Jab booked in for a week today.

Great vaccinations work. Who would have thought it!

Let's get on with our lives now!

Not all vaccines have any impact on transmission. One of the polio ones doesn’t, for example.

It was likely this one would, but whether it did and by how much was a known unknown. So this report is very good news indeed.

@Motorina

Not all vaccines have any impact on transmission. One of the polio ones doesn’t, for example.

It was likely this one would, but whether it did and by how much was a known unknown. So this report is very good news indeed.

Yes you’re right. JVT etc quietly confident but it wasn’t definite.

Great news esp amongst concerns on here over one dose.

They had to keep with that message as it wasn’t yet proven and also it doesn’t cut transmission by 100% so they need people to keep to the rules until all vulnerable are vaccinated. If they’d come out with it straight away no one vaccinated would have stayed in. Great news though surely that means restrictions can be lifted soon.

“That’s the messaging we’ve been fed though!”

No it’s not, the message has been that it hasn’t been shown yet.

Yea it is good news but or was always likely to be the case. I did get tired of reading so many pronouncements.on here about how vaccines only stop you getting very ill and don't stop you catching or transmitting Covid as if that is fact.

It has never been fact, it was just not clear and given how many vaccines ( though admittedly not all) do in fact significantly reduce infection and transmission , it seemed very likely to me that the Covid ones would too.

It is very good news though.

@coffeeandcroissant it says by two thirds! In my excitement I missed copying that part, apologies. Agree, can't wait to hear more about this data!

Yes, it’s good news. Did you not see the report on the Astra Zeneca data from two weeks ago which said this? I mean, it’s great to have it confirmed and to have date that it applies to Pfizer as well - which knowledgable commentators at the time said it probably would.

But it’s completely expected. If they’d come out and said it doesn’t reduce transmission/only by 10% - that would be bad news.

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You’ll have a long wait on MN, OP!

@dongdingdong you're not kidding!!

As you were, wallowers.

I’m delighted we can finally show the evidence to the seemingly endless supply of posters stating as fact that vaccines don’t stop transmission, when this was not what was said by scientists etc as others had pointed out.

I think it was hinted fairly clearly that there would be some positive effect on transmission even though we lacked the official evidence. It was already thought that high viral load is associated with both greater transmission and more severe disease. Vaccines are proven to reduce viral load, so it doesn’t seem a great logical leap to infer that it would impact on transmission.

@UmbilicusProfundus if I had a pound for every time I've read on here that vaccines DO NOT stop transmission...

[quote unmumsymummy21]@UmbilicusProfundus if I had a pound for every time I've read on here that vaccines DO NOT stop transmission... [/quote]
‘‘Tis true. OP - I am thrilled to have this being reported

Great news. But just incase we should consider double masking and sticking to the rule of 6 forever. Perhaps book in our booster shots at 3 monthly intervals for the next 4 years, just to be doubly extra sure and to keep everyone doubly extra safe.

@PracticingPerson

The vaccines appear to be excellent news.

We just need patience and sense now (and a decent government) in order to maximise the potential to get out of this mess, rather than rushing at it and fucking it up with a variant.

I feel more hopeful than I have for ages.

Absolutely how I feel too.

We are getting there. But we can't afford to do it with a sprint.

It's a gentle jog so when we get to the finish line we don't have to repeat the race due to a false start!