Realism over rules going forward as people won't comply

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January was a horrible month and into February. 1000+ deaths every day just from Covid in the UK, weather was terrible, NHS on its knees. Once the lockdown was announced the majority of people naturally followed the advice to stay at home as much as possible.

The vaccine roll out really picked up pace though and that's obviously our way out of this. Once the over 50s or at least 60s and most vulnerable have had at least a vaccine shot by Easter time, the weather picks up and it's 12 months since the first lockdown then good luck getting people to comply.

It's half term this week which has coincided with better weather, more mild and slowly starting to get lighter. You're starting to get kids out socialising again with their mates and once it starts it quickly becomes the norm again and then extends to older demographics. I'm not hear to judge them for that at all because people are bound to have had enough.

Point being, the government can come up with all the rules they want, but they have to take people with them. They can keep hospitality shut but if we have a nice spell of weather again March for example, and over Easter, then people are going to pack out to the parks and even beaches again. They simply won't be able to enforce "you can meet one person outside". It just won't fly with a lot of people when the weather picks up.

Also, its not Covid that has caused an outbreak of chatting!

I’m in a vulnerable group due to asthma, and I’ve had enough, too. Once all the vulnerable groups, which includes me, are safely jabbed I won’t be complying with lockdown and neither will anyone else I know.

I'm hoping the government realise this. I'm sure they do and will relax the rules a little over the next few weeks to allow maybe two households to bubble or maybe group of 6 to meet outdoors.
If they don't, then yes, there will definitely be a shift in people's compliance. We've done 12 months now, it feels like a prison sentence. Some people are still saying that that we need a harsher lockdown!!!
My parents have both been vaccinated and we will be bubbling with them. We will see them every Saturday for dinner at their home like we used to do

@Lemons1571

The daily Mail has a draft roadmap, presumably for the gov to garner opinion. Google “daily Mail roadmap” (if you can bear to!)

Yes, i've read the briefings. That basically says rule of 6 outside to come in in May.

As soon as the nice weather comes people are going to be gathering outside in groups. The current rule of 'you can meet one person outside' is already falling by the wayside now it's half term and the weather is starting to improve.

The manufactured outrage about people doing stuff outside is perplexing. There was someone on here not so long ago having a meltdown about a group of ten kids sledging together down a hill. Life must be exhausting if that’s what grinds your gears.

Well it will certainly be interesting to watch
a. the Government say no to the Royal Family"s 1st July plans or
b. say yes and that they can go ahead but stop the rest of the public from doing similar?!
Both scenarios will be worth grabbing the popcorn for.

OP "The current rule of 'you can meet one person outside' is already falling by the wayside now it's half term and the weather is starting to improve."

So you think it shouldn't be allowed?

@RedskyBynight

They've got to have rules people will mostly stick to because if people are breaking rules outdoors then they'll break them indoors as well, it's a mindset.

I don't think this is true at all. An awful lot of people think outdoors=safe; indoors=not safe.

Our local Facebook is full of people complaining about groups (it's normally teens in groups of 4 or 5) meeting outside. It's the groups meeting inside that no one sees that we need to worry about.

I wonder if that's because it's what they can see, so becomes the focus of all their understandable anxieties about Covid and lockdown.

Certainly in Victoria, the focus is on groups and indoors, unsurprising as that's where people are physically closer and for longer. It's always the "who and how many can come into your home" that takes the pressure when restrictions, as they have been, are changed.

It’s was nice weather here today and I took dd to the and it was packed. Some of her friends were there (not planned) they hugged one another 🤷‍♀️.

Loads of families gathered, chatting away. Everyone was having a great time. It was lovely.
I think if the government really wanted to prevent this from happening they’d have shut the playgrounds again - they know it’s completely unenforceable and unhealthy to completely stop people from mixing outside. I just can’t bring myself to care any more.

I imagine they are going to tread carefully or we'll be back in lockdown.

Delicate balance has to be struck to make the long lockdown worthwhile. We have to hope that people will still be careful and keep the spread down.

It's annoying to read that stupid people say they will just ignore the rules. Selfish pricks.

I went to a park today, first sunny day in ages here (Yorkshire 😂) & it was heaving. I couldn’t believe how busy it was! Doesn’t bother me in the slightest but it did make me realise that yes, warmer weather & people will start meeting outdoors. There were groups of parents stood doing chatting, grandparents with grandkids & family, kids all making friends & running round together.. I quite imagine if the attached area land wasn’t terrible muddy, everyone would have been sat down together!

My DD met a couple friends from nursery & had a ball. I’ve never met their parents before so it was nice to say hello, reasonably distanced. DD told me it was the best day in ages 💔 life has to go on ..

@LunaHeather

OP "The current rule of 'you can meet one person outside' is already falling by the wayside now it's half term and the weather is starting to improve."

So you think it shouldn't be allowed?

I'm saying they'll need to quickly adjust the rule if they want to keep a high compliance to the rules.

OP they might not be too fussed at this stage

I think they will change the law if compliance is low. It's hard to tell what they want at this point. If a 2 week freezing cold spell with snow is forecast for March, that will be different again.

March very unpredictable weather wise. You can get a bit of a heatwave or freezing temperatures and snow. Perhaps both.

Why the fuck should we comply?? Seriously?? Fking had enough. They can get to fuck. Was done with it all months ago. Todays announcement here in NI has left me fking raging.

My concern is that they will wind up cracking down on outdoor meetings simply because it's easier to police and they need to look like they are doing something (the whole "drunk looking for his keys in the light of the lamppost" problem)>

The NHS need to get their own house in order here.

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-cleaners-sick-pay-trust-london-b1803407.html

It's easier to comply when the weather is good. We've had a couple of weeks of foul weather which makes the temptation to go to someone else's house so much greater.