Early May for household mixing, any chance?

Beebityboo · 2021-02-17T10:08:45+00:00

[[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9267563/Roadmap-lockdown-Blueprint-UKs-future-suggests-pubs-business-May.html]] Sorry for the daily fail link and I know it's all speculation so far, but I was wondering about the point it makes about pubs going back in early may with two households allowed to sit together inside. Do you think this will apply to private houses too? We're a family of five so haven't been able to see my parents in a very long time and I desperately miss my mum. Do you think it's possible they would be able to visit us in May? They live too far away to drive over for a quick sit in the garden.

Racoonworld · 17/02/2021 10:16

I really hope so. I’d be happy with two households inside for a bit as long as we can see groups outside. I’ll be really annoyed if schools are back, pubs open but can’t see anyone inside.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 17/02/2021 10:18

I think outdoors but can’t see them allowing mixing indoors for some time yet. Even if they do, it doesn’t mean no risk just because it’s allowed.

Once schools go back and the R number goes up as predicted, everything else may have to wait.

TierFourTears · 17/02/2021 10:32

It looks to me like they are sticking with the rule of 6.
Can DH stay at home, and you go visit your parents with the kids?
Desperate for overnight stays (2 households) so we can visit parents too.

Cantaloupeisland · 17/02/2021 10:35

I'm just feeling increasingly angry that I can mix in school all day with hundreds of others (even now we've got loads in!) But I can't go and stay with my parents who I haven't seen since last August. I know there has to be priorities but feeling really miserable about it all!

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Beebityboo · 17/02/2021 10:38

Yes I think that's what we will have to do Tier, but we don't drive so they will have to come all the way here just to pick us up. Bit of a nightmare as step-dad is a compulsive hoarder and staying there is never very comfortable but needs must! I won't be listening to this rule if the rule of six doesn't apply to pubs as well, that would just be ridiculous.

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Anonanon12 · 17/02/2021 10:39

We're a family of 7 so really hoping they change it to 2 households!

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 17/02/2021 10:42

@Beebityboo

Yes I think that's what we will have to do Tier, but we don't drive so they will have to come all the way here just to pick us up. Bit of a nightmare as step-dad is a compulsive hoarder and staying there is never very comfortable but needs must! I won't be listening to this rule if the rule of six doesn't apply to pubs as well, that would just be ridiculous.

I hope you don’t moan then when many others break the rules and cases soar in schools etc.

You do realise the more who break the rules and allow it to spread, the longer measures need to be in place for.

Plenty miss family, most want that same family to be protected though.

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Beebityboo · 17/02/2021 10:45

Yes I suppose you're right Icecream and in reality I almost certainly wouldn't break the rules (and not broken a single one so far) just having a whinge really. Larger families face going without seeing loved ones for much longer and it's just really hard .

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LindaEllen · 17/02/2021 10:58

I think it'll be a long time for indoor mixing. I find it horrendous that I haven't been able to hug my own mum since last March, yet the kids can go and mix at school and hug each other and lick each other's faces and whatever else small children find entertaining.

I was nearly in tears dropping some shopping off with my grandparents last week. My gran looks so old suddenly. It's opening my eyes that time is so very precious at their age (80s) and I just wanted to hug her bloody tight. I hate this.

RosieLemonade · 17/02/2021 11:16

I was hoping and praying DD could have a few friends round for birthday tea in April half her birthdays would have been lockdown birthdays.

Racoonworld · 17/02/2021 11:38

@RosieLemonade

I was hoping and praying DD could have a few friends round for birthday tea in April

half her birthdays would have been lockdown birthdays.

It’s likely to be rule of 6 outside in April so hopefully your dd could have an outdoor party 🥳

WalkingOnStarshine · 17/02/2021 11:45

I was expecting to be allowed to mix indoors by next month so I'm feeling pretty fed up.

Popfan · 17/02/2021 11:47

I'm a teacher and the argument I keep seeing ' if kids are all at school its ridiculous we can't mix at home' really annoys me. To have schools open we need to restrict other areas which includes household mixing. Obviously at some point it will be allowed but children's education and their well being (as well as their parents!) should be the first priority.

Biscoff2020 · 17/02/2021 11:51

The government’s priority is to get the economy going so it’s likely people will be able to meet up in hospitality before private houses. It’s also easier to enforce social distancing in public venues compared to at home.

Katie517 · 17/02/2021 12:09

I’m seeing my family and some friends indoors from April. It’s gone on long enough and everyone I speak to says the same. We will be careful but non of us are vulnerable we all WFH no school age children. I’m on maternity leave. I’m not waiting for the government to tell me it’s safe when they plan to let everyone cram into shopping centres and let kids mix in schools.

DarceyDashwood · 17/02/2021 12:11

Why do people not get that if we want kids to be able to mix in school, there might have to be restrictions on mixing outside of it?

Racoonworld · 17/02/2021 12:14

@Popfan

I'm a teacher and the argument I keep seeing ' if kids are all at school its ridiculous we can't mix at home' really annoys me. To have schools open we need to restrict other areas which includes household mixing. Obviously at some point it will be allowed but children's education and their well being (as well as their parents!) should be the first priority.

That’s fine for anyone with school age kids, by what about those of us who don’t? Are we supposed to wait ages to see family inside so that kids can mix in school? My child needs to play and socialise too, I’ll be mixing with others to let me DD play when schools go back.

2021WillBeGreat · 17/02/2021 12:17

@Popfan but why should children and parents welfare take priority over other people? People like previous posters who have elderly relatives that they can't even see, or people with young babies who can't even get family support.

Everyone's welfare is important and we shouldn't be pushing to trade off some people's at the huge expense of others welfare. Nicola Sturgeon already said that Scotland is sacrificing lifting other restrictions and other restrictions will last longer due to schools. So parents and children are fine but the rest of us can just stay at home and stick to the rules.

SpencerGregson · 17/02/2021 12:18

I really wish they would discount children from Rule of 6, as elsewhere. As a family of 6, it makes it nigh impossible for us to see any family.

2021WillBeGreat · 17/02/2021 12:19

@Katie517 I agree, I have said the same too. My brother is expecting his first child in the summer, as are we later this year. There is no way I am not spending time with my mum and brother, just so children can attend school.

This is obviously on the proviso cases and deaths don't rise dramatically.

Weepingwillow22 · 17/02/2021 12:21

I am hoping that indoor mixing of 2 households will be allowed at some point in the summer. My parents have not seen my 15 month old since he was 3 months old as they live 200 miles away.

Delatron · 17/02/2021 12:21

I think the government are going to find it hard to stop people seeing their families once the vulnerable are vaccinated. I am not saying this is right and I have followed the rules.

But as a previous poster said, the government does not care whether you have not seen parents/grandparents for a year. It cares about the economy. So the focus will be on that. They will restrict household mixing as long as possible.

Now I think people will start to ignore that. Before vaccinations we had the fear of spreading it to parents and grandparents but once they are vaccinated people will do their own risk assessment. How will they police this I wonder?

Again not saying it is right but it will happen in increasing numbers. And the population will become aware that more and more are breaking the ‘rules’ and feel angry that they are missing out.

Racoonworld · 17/02/2021 12:22

@Katie517 I agree, we’re either all in this together or we aren’t. If children can go to school and mix so school age kids and parents are ok and getting on with life then I will be mixing too. I’m not sitting at home with my baby whilst large portions of the population are allowed to mix.

TwirpingBird · 17/02/2021 12:22

I have had my life on hold so many times so schools could go back. I get it. Its important for kids. But not a single member of either of my family have anything to do with the kids going to school. Not a school going kid among us, none of us working in a school, nothing. I will be meeting people outdoors from april regardless of whether I am told to stay at home (again. With my 2 very young children and no option for a bubble) so kids can go to school. I cant have my life on hold forever. I dont care what the restrictions are. I am done.

PotteringAlong · 17/02/2021 12:24

There is no way I am not spending time with my mum and brother, just so children can attend school.

Would you prefer that schools stay shut so you can safely have a cup of tea with someone then? You cannot please everyone all of the time and you cannot open everything up at once safely. Just because you don’t care about schools right now doesn’t mean it’s not the best thing to do for society in general.