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TV SHOWS

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Ledkr · 16/02/2021 09:06

I keep seeing quiz or chat shows with guests all socially distanced in a studio. Why then can i not see my family and friends in the same set up? 🤔

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Dallerup · 16/02/2021 15:43

But contestants on Who Wants to be a Millionaire are not working, people on the numerous dating shows who aren't celebrities are not working. So it just looks like the industry has had special treatment in comparison to other.

They're not live. These were filmed in the gaps between lockdowns. Right now, during lockdown, while we're not supposed to be out for non essential reasons (essential reasons including work), these aren't being filmed. Celebrity versions are being filmed but not episodes with Joe Bloggs off the street

casper2017 · 16/02/2021 15:47

@Dallerup

But contestants on Who Wants to be a Millionaire are not working, people on the numerous dating shows who aren't celebrities are not working. So it just looks like the industry has had special treatment in comparison to other.

They're not live. These were filmed in the gaps between lockdowns. Right now, during lockdown, while we're not supposed to be out for non essential reasons (essential reasons including work), these aren't being filmed. Celebrity versions are being filmed but not episodes with Joe Bloggs off the street

No they aren't being filmed in between lockdown. Who Wants to be a Millionaire was filmed in Manchester which has been under the strictest lockdown measures since the summer, it was filmed late last year
Dallerup · 16/02/2021 15:50

IF the government truly thinks you can 'just as easily' exercise at home or in the park then we're stuffed.

Huh? Why can't we easily exercise at home or in the park? Absolutely some exceptions but I'm severely allergic to exercise and even I could manage a yoga video in my small living room or a jog around the block if I was that way inclined.

Hopefully gyms are pausing memberships? People could use the money saved for a personal trainer in the park? That's allowed on a 1-2-1 basis

I can totally understand the frustrations of someone with a physical disability used to using a pool for exercise. It would've been good if an exception could be made in those circumstances but I guess it's not a financially viable business decision?

Dallerup · 16/02/2021 15:56

No they aren't being filmed in between lockdown. Who Wants to be a Millionaire was filmed in Manchester which has been under the strictest lockdown measures since the summer, it was filmed late last year

Was it illegal to travel into Manchester at the time? Have any of the contestants been travelling from lockdown areas??
I had no particular need or urge to go so I genuinely have no idea what the actual rules were and exactly when they were in force. I assumed there's only 6 contestants now because we were allowed to meet in groups of 6 (JC and crew working I guess wouldn't count as any of the 6)

casper2017 · 16/02/2021 16:11

@Dallerup

No they aren't being filmed in between lockdown. Who Wants to be a Millionaire was filmed in Manchester which has been under the strictest lockdown measures since the summer, it was filmed late last year

Was it illegal to travel into Manchester at the time? Have any of the contestants been travelling from lockdown areas??
I had no particular need or urge to go so I genuinely have no idea what the actual rules were and exactly when they were in force. I assumed there's only 6 contestants now because we were allowed to meet in groups of 6 (JC and crew working I guess wouldn't count as any of the 6)

In Manchester where I live we have not been allowed inside another house since maybe September when we went into local lockdown. I have no problem with the TV industry working at all, the more people in work the better. My point is that I feel some of the leniency extended to that industry should be extended to others. I actually have a fairly extensive gym set up at home so have no need to go to a gym now or in the future. It's more about keeping things fair.
Dallerup · 16/02/2021 16:21

@casper2017 Was any hospitality open? Were you allowed to go to restaurants etc? Again, I genuinely don't know/remember. If so, was this when they were filmed? Most of these examples aren't groups of friends meeting up (some shows were like that, an episode of Tenable yesterday had a group of family who obviously didn't live together so were distanced) so it's different to meeting in houses as you're more likely to stay apart.

A lot of this thread seems to be focussed on 'why can't other places be open?' And the point is that they technically could but it would be pointless because no one is allowed to be a customer of most places

casper2017 · 16/02/2021 16:33

[quote Dallerup]@casper2017 Was any hospitality open? Were you allowed to go to restaurants etc? Again, I genuinely don't know/remember. If so, was this when they were filmed? Most of these examples aren't groups of friends meeting up (some shows were like that, an episode of Tenable yesterday had a group of family who obviously didn't live together so were distanced) so it's different to meeting in houses as you're more likely to stay apart.

A lot of this thread seems to be focussed on 'why can't other places be open?' And the point is that they technically could but it would be pointless because no one is allowed to be a customer of most places[/quote]
If the general public are trusted to use essential shops, takeaways public transport, click and collect services etc with hundreds of people then I dont understand how all of a sudden we are too stupid to understand how to social distance during a reduced size fitness class to allow people to make a living.

It makes no difference what the rules were at the time if filming, they aren't being fairly applied.

Like a pp said, it's all down to money.

MercyBooth · 16/02/2021 16:58

Pisses me off when its obvious they have clearly had haircuts.

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Ledkr · 16/02/2021 17:02

I wonder if the tenable family all drove up in separate cars 😂

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Dallerup · 16/02/2021 17:29

@casper2017 But then surely the question could be 'are we too stupid to not socially distance having a cup of tea with our parents?' Or gyms with studios too small to make reduced numbers classes viable will be saying it's unfair? There's got to be a line drawn somewhere. Everyone wants restrictions eased in different orders depending on their priorities. I couldn't give a toss about gyms but I'm desperate to pop over to my mums.

It's impossible to say it's not fair when the comparison is a gym with members who aren't allowed to meet socially (many people do go to the gym to socialise) and can't be 'policed' and a tv studio with celebrities doing their job and (in some cases although I'm not convinced all) media scrutiny of how they adhere to the rules.

For what it's worth I'm actually more towards the anti-lockdown/personal responsibility end of the argument so I do think everything should be open

Dallerup · 16/02/2021 17:33

@Ledkr I bet they didn't but I'm sure the production company just turned a blind eye.

As much as I'm saying they should still be allowed to film the shows (without members of the public at the moment) I don't for one second believe that the safety measures they show on screen are all being adhered to backstage!

Dallerup · 16/02/2021 17:35

@MercyBooth I did wonder about this. Not so long ago Stacey Solomon was on about doing her own hair and make up for Loose Women but I've seen a few people thanking beauty teams which really shouldn't be allowed. No chance of distancing while someone is doing your make up

casper2017 · 16/02/2021 18:02

[quote Dallerup]@casper2017 But then surely the question could be 'are we too stupid to not socially distance having a cup of tea with our parents?' Or gyms with studios too small to make reduced numbers classes viable will be saying it's unfair? There's got to be a line drawn somewhere. Everyone wants restrictions eased in different orders depending on their priorities. I couldn't give a toss about gyms but I'm desperate to pop over to my mums.

It's impossible to say it's not fair when the comparison is a gym with members who aren't allowed to meet socially (many people do go to the gym to socialise) and can't be 'policed' and a tv studio with celebrities doing their job and (in some cases although I'm not convinced all) media scrutiny of how they adhere to the rules.

For what it's worth I'm actually more towards the anti-lockdown/personal responsibility end of the argument so I do think everything should be open[/quote]
Yeah there's totally an argument for why are we trusted to socially distance in shops but not in our own homes. I have been asking myself this since it started!

But at the same time you can't presume TV studios are 'policed' as it's it's no different to any other workplace. If you can socially distance at work then you can't. There's no law about this.

Its almost as if some celebs have been given a free pass, they can socialise at work (reality tv shows like dating or dancing etc with all their friends) get hair and make up done, travel to wherever they need (celebrities using work as an excuse to holiday for weeks at a time).

Dallerup · 16/02/2021 18:34

@casper2017 I don't think I expressed what I meant well I don't for one second think tv studios are 'policed' in the way that the general public are. I just meant that with the tv cameras and media coverage there's the illusion of them being policed. Like I said in my later post, I reckon the cameras go off and they're all backstage at a free bar, air kissing and shaking hands but if they slip up in front of the camera they risk getting into trouble. I have still seen them momentarily break the guidelines and I do love pointing it out. DP does not love me doing it anymore Grin

Dallerup · 16/02/2021 18:38

@casper2017 And I can see how it seems unfair that celebs can travel etc but so can a lot of other professions. A distant family member gets to technically avoid quarantine when travelling because of 'business reasons' but isn't in the public eye. They do actually isolate when they come back but they're not required to.

A massive side eye to hair and make up though! I'm sure that wasn't allowed for a while and has been snuck in

aSofaNearYou · 16/02/2021 18:47

Because they deem it important that people have entertainment whilst expecting people to stay at home.

Can't imagine as many people would still be complying if they didn't have any new media to keep them occupied.

casper2017 · 16/02/2021 18:50

[quote Dallerup]@casper2017 I don't think I expressed what I meant well I don't for one second think tv studios are 'policed' in the way that the general public are. I just meant that with the tv cameras and media coverage there's the illusion of them being policed. Like I said in my later post, I reckon the cameras go off and they're all backstage at a free bar, air kissing and shaking hands but if they slip up in front of the camera they risk getting into trouble. I have still seen them momentarily break the guidelines and I do love pointing it out. DP does not love me doing it anymore Grin[/quote]
Yeah I see your point. I have noticed a few social media posts swiftly deleted once they have realised they have messed up!

casper2017 · 16/02/2021 18:52

[quote Dallerup]@casper2017 And I can see how it seems unfair that celebs can travel etc but so can a lot of other professions. A distant family member gets to technically avoid quarantine when travelling because of 'business reasons' but isn't in the public eye. They do actually isolate when they come back but they're not required to.

A massive side eye to hair and make up though! I'm sure that wasn't allowed for a while and has been snuck in[/quote]
I think I mean the new breed of influencers that do the reality tv show circuit that then end up in Dubai on a 'business' trip that seem to only consist of them sitting on the beach and getting drunk with friends. What a loophole!

CoolShoeshine · 16/02/2021 18:54

I’ve heard the bbc presenters mention that they get fully sprayed down with some sort of anti bacterial before they’re allowed in the studio.

Dallerup · 16/02/2021 19:02

I think I mean the new breed of influencers that do the reality tv show circuit that then end up in Dubai on a 'business' trip that seem to only consist of them sitting on the beach and getting drunk with friends. What a loophole!

Probably for #ads? In those cases I think there should be a fine given to ad agencies or whoever they're advertising for. For the influencer it is essential to go on a trip for that particular job (yes they take the piss while they're there but I probably would too) but there's no way an ad for anything NEEDS to be filmed in any particular country at the moment. Especially not with the technology we now have that can make it look like you're anywhere in the world

Dallerup · 16/02/2021 19:03

@CoolShoeshine They might want to question what good an antibacterial does on a virus before they let them spray stuff in their faces Grin

SuperbGorgonzola · 16/02/2021 19:08

I'm so glad that they are doing them. When Have I Got News For You was recorded like a zoom call it was awful to watch.

I think they're doing a much better job now of making the social distancing less noticeable but I hated watching anything like that to begin with because of how artificial it was.

aSofaNearYou · 16/02/2021 19:15

@SuperbGorgonzola

I'm so glad that they are doing them. When Have I Got News For You was recorded like a zoom call it was awful to watch.

I think they're doing a much better job now of making the social distancing less noticeable but I hated watching anything like that to begin with because of how artificial it was.

I agree, it's alright with a small audience and guests sat further apart, but the early lockdown stuff that was all over zoom with no crowd noises were awful. The first post lockdown Last Leg was downright uncomfortable.
firesidetartan · 16/02/2021 19:49

@aSofaNearYou

Because they deem it important that people have entertainment whilst expecting people to stay at home.

This is nothing to do with it. Do you actually think anyone gives a fuck whether we have entertainment?

It is their jobs. They are allowed to work.

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