Does the vaccine prevent long Covid?

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Just as my title suggests.

Does the vaccine stop long Covid? Do we know yet?

Don’t think it’s known yet.

That’s what I thought. I tried Googling but couldn’t find much.

I can’t imagine why it wouldn’t.

Tha0t is indeed a very good question.
I have not heard anything relating to that yet.

Well yes, the vaccine stops you getting ill / stops you getting covid up in up to 90% of people. Most people are experiencing post-viral symptoms, while not always particularly pleasant are not remotely life threatening or changing long term.

Actual serious complications of covid are very rare & almost completed limited to those with serious illness. The vaccine should completely stop these cases.

Also, long covid is actually relatively rare.

Is it rare? If you read threads on here most people get long Covid. I don’t know anyone with long Covid, the small amount I know who have had Covid have all recovered. I now know more people who have had the vaccine than who have had Covid, which is good news.

@Baileysforchristmas

Is it rare? If you read threads on here most people get long Covid. I don’t know anyone with long Covid, the small amount I know who have had Covid have all recovered. I now know more people who have had the vaccine than who have had Covid, which is good news.

Yes it’s rare. Lots of people here seem to think they have long vivid when really they are just fatigued for a few weeks after having a nasty virus. Actual post viral syndrome is quite rare.

@doireallyneedaname Is it rare ? Funnily enough the RCN and BMA are saying they are really concerned about the impact of long covid on the NHS, particularly on community services like district nursing, community physio etc. Many ICU patients aren't dying of covid but left with long term issues that need intensive rehab, physio, nursing and medical imput. These services have been poorly staffed for years and will struggle to cope.

@Baileysforchristmas

Is it rare? If you read threads on here most people get long Covid. I don’t know anyone with long Covid, the small amount I know who have had Covid have all recovered. I now know more people who have had the vaccine than who have had Covid, which is good news.

I know about 25 people who have had Covid and only one of them has genuine Long Covid, she is very obese so I'd imagine that's a contributing factor.

Long COVID affects about 1 in 20 people who have COVID. It's not just one thing either, it's a catch all term. So not it's "just" pvf or CFS/ME, for some it includes permanent damage to the lungs, heart or or other organs. For others (like me) neurological damage which may, or may not, be permanent.

The vaccine will certainly cut down the number of people getting a "long covid" label, firstly by lowering the number of people that catch it at all and secondly by lowering the number of people that develop severe disease. It may not get rid of it entirely because it's not exactly known why some people are vulnerable to it in the first place.

Long COVID affects about 1 in 20 people who have COVID

The ONS say there have been ~20million infections, so that's 1 million people with long covid, if that is the prevalence, and it does harm the NHS, then would already be consuming considerably more NHS resources than the covid hospitalisations.

I suspect the 1 in 20 figure is simply lumping in people who are still not recovered from a few weeks isolation / fatigue and not genuine long term symptoms. Knowing a genuine prevalence would be useful, this 1 in 20 stuff needs to stop being promoted as it's clearly not the case - and cases in the may parts of the world would be even higher, and their health services overrun. No country has yet reported that.

I'd have assumed so, they say that the vaccine cuts down on people with severe illness, I'd assume if you weren't affected badly that the likelihood of you ending up with a long term bad illness from it would be drastically reduced, though thinking back, I now realise I haven't seen anything about the risk of long covid decreasing.

Well, Long Covid, or post-viral symptoms as I prefer to undramatically call it, affects about 5% of people doesn't it?

And well. If you don't get the virus, how would you get post-viral symptoms?

@doireallyneedaname

Also, long covid is actually relatively rare.

Wheres your evidence for this? Because the evidence I have seen have shown its relatively common, obviously with a lot of variability in length and severity of symptoms.

It would appear that the vaccines don't stop you getting Covid (at least not after only 1 dose), but they stop you getting seriously ill/dying from it. I haven't heard anything specifically said about their effect on Long Covid.

@Athinginitself up to 10% is what I saw - to me that’s not a huge concern.

Our friend’s 10 year old DS is suffering from long Covid. He was previously a healthy and active boy. He’s very seriously ill and they are extremely worried about him.

I also know of a friend of a friend with long Covid who has been left with heart problems and epilepsy. He was a young doctor in his thirties and he’ll probably never work again.

Absolutely tragic. So much complacency over this disease.

I think 10% is pretty big, even taking into account that a large proportion of those peoples symptoms will resolve within months, its still likely a lot of people with longer term symptoms. I do think the vaccine will reduce the prevalence of post covid though which is positive.

@Athinginitself saying that, it also states that 70% of those with long covid in the study had impairment of at least 1 organ

@devildeepbluesea you think permanent heart or lung damage is pvs?

A lot of the "sources" on long COVID are a bit of a joke and rely heavily on random internet surveys and self-reporting.

Post-viral syndrome is a very real thing and it would be astonishing if a virus with a mortality rate many times that of seasonal flu did not result in a small % of people developing post-viral syndrome (given that even plain old seasonal flu can cause PVS too).

However, I can guarantee that in any sources which rely on self-reporting, the figures are going to be massively inflated by large numbers of self-reporters suffering from general psychosomatic symptoms and generalized anxieties.

I know of a few reported long COVID cases among people I know in my social circle. Two appear to be genuine. The other two people have long established histories of anxiety disorders, vague food intolerance/allergy claims which keep changing all the time... you get the picture. Neither appears to have any clear evidence of ever having had COVID19. So I'll retain the right to be skeptical about some of the figures I see bandied about.

Kokeshi123

And I'll retain the right to be sceptical about the anecdotal data you've thrown around after knocking ancedotal data.

My understanding is that, in the case of the AZ vaccine, it prevents some people getting it altogether. Presumably if you don't get Covid, you can't get long Covid. As regards those who still get it, but less seriously, good question! I guess it's too early for them to have gathered the data.

covid.joinzoe.com/post/long-covid
Data from Zoe app suggests that one in twenty people who contract Covid still have symptoms after 8 weeks.