Can you have the vaccine if your pregnant and want it?

[Helenj1977]

Just that really. We want to start ttc but the thought of missing out of the vaccine is making me question it and it's a horrible feeling.

We put it off last year due to covid.

I have read that some pregnant women have had it but the NHS advises against it so I wonder if I'll even be offered.

I’ll repeat my previous post for you below @Screwcorona, what you have said is untrue, and harmful which is why it will have been deleted.

Please read the comments from the deputy chief medical officer and stop spreading this lie.

THIS IS COMPLETELY UNTRUE.

Please read this article quoting Johnathan van Tam:

the deputy chief medical officer for England, Jonathan Van-Tam, when answering questions from BBC viewers, said: "I have never heard of a vaccine that affects fertility."
He described the suggestion as "a nasty, pernicious scare story, but that's all it is".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56012529

And, being logical, given that only CEV, frontline staff, and the older generations have been vaccinated, where the hell have all these supposedly pregnant> vaccinated > pregnancy loss stories come from in such a short space of time @screwcorona? It's so obviously horse shit that Mumsnet couldn't leave it on the board unless you can come up with some actual credible evidence.

I've had the vaccine and I am pregnant. I am CEV and have been sheilding since March. The pregnancy was a surprise and I've previously had 6 MC's but read all the evidence abs made the decision that the benefits of me being vaccinated outweighed any risk (of which there are none proven currently)

I'm not staying there aren't (m)any CEV or frontline staff that are pregnant and have decided the benefit of the jab outweighs the risk of the disease in their position (and vice versa), btw, just to be super-clear.

@kdd1980 you phrases Taht a lot better than I did in my muddled post there 😂

This sort of thing puts me off commenting on mumsnet in good faith. I was not rude, I havent just pluck ideas out of nowhere. I answered ops post asking what people thought about having this particular vaccine or not. A lot of you are being very rude to me thankfully not the op who is polite about our opinions. I've had a miscarriage in 2020 and it's a very raw subject for me as it is. I dont want more people to go through that pain.

I get the feeling a few people would not want me to actually share links to the articles for the women I am talking about? In a polite and fair way please do reply again if you want me to link it. Otherwise I'm going to step out of this conversation.

You can, I did. Had to battle a bit though and it actually annoyed me GPS/ receptionists thought they could decided for me. Your body, your decision.

@Screwcorona

This sort of thing puts me off commenting on mumsnet in good faith. I was not rude, I havent just pluck ideas out of nowhere. I answered ops post asking what people thought about having this particular vaccine or not. A lot of you are being very rude to me thankfully not the op who is polite about our opinions. I've had a miscarriage in 2020 and it's a very raw subject for me as it is. I dont want more people to go through that pain.

I get the feeling a few people would not want me to actually share links to the articles for the women I am talking about? In a polite and fair way please do reply again if you want me to link it. Otherwise I'm going to step out of this conversation.

If you think you have reputable sources stating this then by all means share them.

As others have said, I’d be very surprised if there were as the rumours of miscarriage have been widely debunked by experts.

People get annoyed as you’re spreading false information with the potential to do real damage. If you make a statement like that you have be absolutely sure of your sources and their validity.

Yes, please do link them @Screwcorona I’d like to see these sources.

I had a miscarriage last year too, and am pregnant again, which is why I think it’s so unhelpful to share these kinds of things without fact based evidence to back it up.

[quote 1990s]I’ll repeat my previous post for you below @Screwcorona, what you have said is untrue, and harmful which is why it will have been deleted.

Please read the comments from the deputy chief medical officer and stop spreading this lie.

THIS IS COMPLETELY UNTRUE.

Please read this article quoting Johnathan van Tam:

the deputy chief medical officer for England, Jonathan Van-Tam, when answering questions from BBC viewers, said: "I have never heard of a vaccine that affects fertility."
He described the suggestion as "a nasty, pernicious scare story, but that's all it is".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56012529[/quote]
I don't actually think there's evidence of the Covid vaccine causing miscarriage, but you are conflating loss of fertility and miscarriage. Isn't the reason that you can't have MMR while pregnant that it could cause miscarriage? But MMR doesn't affect fertility.

It really annoys me when people throw the "risk of miscarriage" into the conversation without having any evidence.

Do you realise that having high temperature in pregnancy, particularly in the first trimester, has been conclusively held to increase the risk of MC? Now, this is a fact. There is also further ongoing research into risks of MC or premature birth following viral infections in pregnancy. There is ongoing research into the relationship between viral infections in pregnancy and ASD in children. There are thousands of ongoing pieces of research that are Covid-19 specific. As it stands there are still no definitive answers as to how Covid-19 may affect pregnant women and/or their babies. But then there's always one parrot shouting about the vaccine and MC. Vaccine which regardless of its usual side effects is clearly safer to humans than the virus itself.

I had 3 MCs and am currently nearly 15 weeks pregnant. I'd have this vaccine if I could, tomorrow. I wish those parrots could just frankly shut up and stop causing unjustified stress and worry to women who are already sufficiently concerned.

Effect on fertility is also a completely separate matter, it's the ability to conceive, not the progression of the existing pregnancy or the effect on the pregnant mother or her baby.

Some common sense goes a long way.

Question to those of you who had this vaccine in pregnancy, are you all working in jobs exposed to the public? I am not at the moment, I understand this means I need to wait for my turn most likely in the autumn?

Also where is this nonsense about MMR coming from? Here is the information:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/vaccine-in-pregnancy-advice-for-pregnant-women/mmr-measles-mumps-rubella-vaccine-advice-for-pregnant-women#:~:text=1.-,Introduction,pregnancy%20as%20matter%20of%20caution.

It clearly hasn't caused any issues in pregnancy based on the monitoring to date and the reason why it is widely recommended before pregnancy is because becoming infected with rubella at any stage of pregnancy is dangerous to the baby so it's best to build up immunity beforehand.

Just because a vaccine has a quirky abbreviation doesn't make it dangerous.

@PurplePansy05 yes! I'm still working as a carer. I'm CEV as well as prone to miscarriage (not to mention I'm in my 40's) and am currently 7 weeks. I weighed everything up, including what you were saying about infections in pregnancy and decided it was best for me to get it. I can't imagine it could cause me any more damage than if I actually got Covid!

Thanks all. I'm tempted to pause ttc until I've had it.

I'm worried that once I'm pg in the system I won't even be offered it.

I do have coronaphobia and 2 school age children, one in secondary.

This is so horrible. I just want another baby but don't want to risk covid 🥲