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Thread to document incidents within your circle of covid patients being denied treatment

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SomewhereUpMyArse · 14/02/2021 18:53

Just that. An attempt to collect personal stories of this happening while the government tries to blame the general population for the UK death rate.

So from my circle, my cousin, 45 yo, mild asthma. Developed symptoms a week into lockdown, suddenly became much worse eight days in, husband rang an ambulance, they asked him questions, she gets out of breath walking across the room, she gets out of breath standing up. Next question, is she able to watch TV, basically is she conscious, so yes to that, well you don't need an ambulance. A year later she's still got dropping oxygen levels eg when she walks upstairs.

Another, ex BiL, previously healthy, ok up till a week of symptoms, suddenly starts panting, can't get a breath lying down. Ex SiL calls ambulance, is asked if his lips are blue, no they're not at this stage, gets worse over next two days, repeated phone calls, lips do go blue, ambulance does now come, admitted, dies. 52 yo.

So that's one person dead and one with long term effects due to policy decisions on who to admit.

We're all watching those adverts with covid actors on telling us all how shit we are for letting 100,000 die even though we've got no control over it. Let's have a thread about people with actual covid who were let down by actual policy. Not by the people at the bottom, but by the people at the top.

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MercyBooth · 14/02/2021 20:46

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PPNC · 14/02/2021 20:50

ex FIL, 80s tested positive for Covid. Fine with those symptoms but fell at home, broken ribs, damaged hip, seriously in pain, already has had 2 heart operations and Parkinson’s. Not accepted to hospital due to positive test, left home in agony untreated for ACTUAL injuries. Luckily SIL is a GP and treated him herself, against policy and could be in serious trouble but who is going to leave a man in pain?

It’s like only Covid exists now and everyone else can just die.

PPNC · 14/02/2021 20:52

Oh an an uncle, admitted with diabetic coma, treated but still unstable, sent home without a proper care plan to “clear beds” (first wave), died at home and found days later. Body was lost, when found death certificate days “pneumonia from Covid”. Clearly wasn’t, it was the untreated diabetes.

DuchessofHastings1 · 14/02/2021 21:08

@PPNC absolutely disgusting and it boils my blood. This is happening all over the country.

The pro lockdowners and preachers 'stay safe, protect the NHS' won't have it that there are other things out there that are more serious than Covid and its preventing people from getting treatment...and they definitely won't have it that people die of other causes and it's put down to Covid on the death certificate.

Haffiana · 14/02/2021 21:51

[quote DuchessofHastings1]@PPNC absolutely disgusting and it boils my blood. This is happening all over the country.

The pro lockdowners and preachers 'stay safe, protect the NHS' won't have it that there are other things out there that are more serious than Covid and its preventing people from getting treatment...and they definitely won't have it that people die of other causes and it's put down to Covid on the death certificate.[/quote]
How does that work then? You posted this on another thread as well and didn't make sense there either.

If you DON'T lock down then you get more people in hospital ill with Covid, yes?

So MORE people dying who don't have Covid but something else serious, but who can't access treatment as a result of all the beds filled with Covid cases, surely.

Can you explain what your thinking is? Leave Covid patients to die in the gutters instead?

What are you 'pro'?

SomewhereUpMyArse · 14/02/2021 21:58

Disgusting treatment outlined above.

So none of these people were admitted when they should have been, covid or not.

Especially in the first wave, all that politicians were interested in was telling people that hospitals weren't overwhelmed.

@DuchessofHastings1 please don't think that covid patients got special treatment. Lots of people who were ill during the first lockdown died both from covid and other causes.

Seriously, telling people they can't have treatment until their lips go blue.

What is that about?

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DuchessofHastings1 · 15/02/2021 08:41

*How does that work then? You posted this on another thread as well and didn't make sense there either.

If you DON'T lock down then you get more people in hospital ill with Covid, yes?

So MORE people dying who don't have Covid but something else serious, but who can't access treatment as a result of all the beds filled with Covid cases, surely.

Can you explain what your thinking is? Leave Covid patients to die in the gutters instead?

What are you 'pro'?*

Its swings and roundabouts ain't it?

I'm not sure what part of me saying people who have more serious illnesses than Covid cant access treatment due to Covid you dont understand or doesnt make sense. For whatever reason that maybe, it's still happening isn't it? 3,000 less cancer referrals have been made this year alone.

AtlasPine · 15/02/2021 09:02

I know it’s hard but maybe the ambulance personnel had to choose between five trips to homes where lips were already blue and five to homes where they were not quite at that stage. Resources are limited after decades of funding cut in real terms. The pandemic has be unprecedented and lives have been lost which wouldn’t have Ben without the sheer numbers. But the sheer numbers are not the NHS’s fault.

Frouby · 15/02/2021 09:06

Fil. Admitted to hospital end of March, 74, had 2 strokes a few years ago but absolutely fit and well before. In hospital 10 days, transferred to a nursing home (without our knowledge, we found out when we finally got through to the ward after trying for hours because we couldn't get him to answer his phone). Told that it was because 'he was much better and go to recuperate. Got hold of nursing home he was at, told he was doing well. Next day dh spoke to him and fil sounded very breathless and coughing repeatedly, when while at hospital he had been laughing and joking on the phone.

Managed after 2 fucking days of repeatedly phoning nursing home to speak to a senior carer, who said she would get nurse to ring me but I shouldn't keep ringing as they were too busy to answer the phone.

Nurse rung me, asked about fil history, he fitness prior to admission. Told her he was on the 9.15am bus every single day to town, fit and well, independent etc. She told me that he was bedbound, couldn't get to the toilet, was barely speaking, not communicating etc. Didn't believe me when I said he had been phoning us from the covid ward, asking us to put a bet on the virtual grand national for him, asking if we could pick the kids eggs up from him.

Told her I was very concerned he had gone downhill again. She said it was just psychological because he thinks he's stuck in the carehome and she would push him to get up etc. I asked if we could have a doctor come look at him as was concerned about his breathlessness and coughing. She laughed and said of course he's coughing and breathless he's had covid.

He died later that night. Alone. They found him on a night time check.

I am still fucking furious. He death certificate states Pneumonia with secondary cause covid as he tested negative post mortem for covid.

He may have died if he had been kept in hospital or sent back. But he would have been on oxygen, with pain killers and a nurse with him.

psychomath · 15/02/2021 11:30

God that's terrible Frouby, I'm so sorry Flowers

Rocaille · 15/02/2021 12:04

The NHS is a joke: refusing to treat the seriously ill, discharging covid-positive elders to nursing homes and allowing infections to run rampant (40% of infections are taking place in hospitals).

And yet covid deaths are the fault of people sitting on park benches or buying non-essential items at the supermarket. 🤪

Watchingbehindmyhands · 15/02/2021 12:21

I'm not sure what part of me saying people who have more serious illnesses than Covid cant access treatment due to Covid you dont understand or doesnt make sense. For whatever reason that maybe, it's still happening isn't it?

So people with covid - thousands of them needing hospital treatment - should not get treatment? What is your solution? Stopping treating covid will make the situation worse, not better.

Haffiana · 15/02/2021 15:58

I'm not sure what part of me saying people who have more serious illnesses than Covid cant access treatment due to Covid you dont understand or doesnt make sense. For whatever reason that maybe, it's still happening isn't it? 3,000 less cancer referrals have been made this year alone.

So -I ask again- what is your solution?

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