IT'S NOT LIKE FLU!

[TheDailyCarbunkle]

Oh, sorry, it is like flu:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56050119

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56047489

It will be like the flu?

No. It's not like flu at all - if you catch it.

But we could be treating it in the same way as we do flu, especially now we have not only several vaccines but also more medicines which seem to help lessen the symptoms.

Rather disingenuous OP there though ...

Bread is 'like' cake.
Give your kids a birthday bread and see if they think its exactly the same in every way.

I think this is the full unedited quote from Matt Hancock. He says "if" it's like flu. By this i take it he means in terms of how a vaccine could control it, not that the actual virus is similar

Quote MH
“If Covid-19 ends up being like flu, so we live our normal lives and we mitigate through vaccines and treatments, then we can get on with everything again.”

I know it’s absolutely nothing like the flu. Just has flu like symptoms in vast majority (if any symptoms at all) and exactly the same people vulnerable to the flu are the same who are vulnerable to covid... but it’s NOTHING LIKE IT!

@TheDailyCarbunkle

Haha
It certainly differs from the flu but it is a respiratory virus.
Its like the flu but not, like a bad strain of the flu. Most people will have flu like symptoms. A few will be hospitalised, a few will die.
Hopefully like Matt Hancock said if it will end up like the flu where we learn to live with not hiding from it like we are now, have updated vaccines every year and we we get on with our lifes.
But then what will all the tabloids scare us with next?

It is like flu - for a lot of people.

The issue is that people get a bit of a cold and say they've got flu. Thy absolutely haven't. When you get flu, you are ill. You are in bed. You may have a few weeks' recovery time afterwards which isn't dissimilar to milder and shorter-lived versions of long covid. I remember having the Millennium Flu over Christmas 1999 and not feeling better until the end of January 2000.

When they say on Strictly that they've missed a couple of days' training that week because of flu - no you haven't, you had a bit of a cold!

There is a reason vulnerable people need a vaccination against flu.

Flu kills tens of thousands of people each year in the UK. Long term problems it can cause include inflammation of the heart (myocarditis), brain (encephalitis) or muscles (myositis, rhabdomyolysis) tissues, and multi-organ failure.

I know of people who have had ME-like symptoms for many years after a dose of the 'flu and I myself was unable to work for 3 months afterwards and fell into bed early for a good year, although I was young and fit.

Many years some hospitals are nearly swamped with flu patients, emergency status is declared. But for many people with a dose of flu will not even need to stay in bed.

There's a vaccine for flu, which is more effective against some variants than others. Flu mutates rapidly.

Whereas Covid ...?

For some people it's the same as a cold.

Flu is worse than Covid for under 45 and Covid is worse than flu for over 45.
Should Covid have a capital letter and flu not have a capital letter?

Are you deliberately missing the point?

A virus can be not like flu in that the symptoms and outcomes are different but like flu in that it's always with us and we manage it with vaccines and actions.

Both are true and your links seem to be quite clearly saying the latter

I was much more ill with flu than I was with Covid so IMO no, it’s not like flu!

It doesn’t say anywhere on either of those links that MH said COVID was like flu. Because that’s not what he said.

All the people I know that got covid said it feels just like the flu

BBC is quoting Matt Hancock in saying ‘we could live with it like we do with flu’. That is not saying COVID is ‘like flu’.

It is saying that, with vaccinating the old and vulnerable and keeping the rate down in the rest of the population, it will just be another winter disease-which makes perfect sense.

Very different from what you are trying to imply.

There are also a lot of different influenza viruses, some which can be quite serious.

But ex vaccines, flu IFR (in recent years) has been around 0.2%, Corona about 6x that in the U.K. population (latest Imperial estimate).

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/14/is-covid-more-deadly-and-contagious-than-seasonal-flu

@poppycat10

It is like flu - for a lot of people.

The issue is that people get a bit of a cold and say they've got flu. Thy absolutely haven't. When you get flu, you are ill. You are in bed. You may have a few weeks' recovery time afterwards which isn't dissimilar to milder and shorter-lived versions of long covid. I remember having the Millennium Flu over Christmas 1999 and not feeling better until the end of January 2000.

When they say on Strictly that they've missed a couple of days' training that week because of flu - no you haven't, you had a bit of a cold!

There is a reason vulnerable people need a vaccination against flu.

This is incorrect and a very common myth.

One thing covid 19 should have taught everyone is that almost any virus can present itself in many different ways for different people.

Someone can catch covid and be seriously ill. Others a]may feel poorly and a little unwell. Some may have no symptoms.

In exactly the same way some people have very severe reactions to catching flu and others can have pretty mild ones.

Also someone can have a cold that makes them very poorly. A few years back I had a cold which led to secondary pneumonia and hospitalisation.

We see the whole 'flu means you can't move from bed' myth every year in MN. It's simply not true.

Handcock put it badly, but I think he means that we will learn to live with Covid-19 just like we live with flu, not that it is actually 'like' flu to have!

@amicissimma

Flu kills tens of thousands of people each year in the UK. Long term problems it can cause include inflammation of the heart (myocarditis), brain (encephalitis) or muscles (myositis, rhabdomyolysis) tissues, and multi-organ failure.

I know of people who have had ME-like symptoms for many years after a dose of the 'flu and I myself was unable to work for 3 months afterwards and fell into bed early for a good year, although I was young and fit.

Many years some hospitals are nearly swamped with flu patients, emergency status is declared. But for many people with a dose of flu will not even need to stay in bed.

There's a vaccine for flu, which is more effective against some variants than others. Flu mutates rapidly.

Whereas Covid ...?

Whereas covid has a population fatality rate of around 0.2% in the U.K. with the current measures restricting it’s spread.

We can compare the two properly when the flu has similar.

When you get flu, you are ill.

Not true, asymptomatic flu is a very common, almost majority thing, too.

For some flu can actually be worse than covid19

I've known people who had mostly no symptoms from covid but have had flu before and have spent two weeks in bed unable to get up.

For some covid is absolutely terrible and they are mostly the top 9 groups getting vaxxed

@BIWI

No. It's not like flu at all - if you catch it.

But we could be treating it in the same way as we do flu, especially now we have not only several vaccines but also more medicines which seem to help lessen the symptoms.

Rather disingenuous OP there though ...

God another one why do I know so many who described it like flu 🤣 not only in the U.K. but also abroad ? Or is it because it was flu and just numbered as covid? Come on which one is it?