Please govt. just give us a little hope

[whenwillthemadnessend]

All I want to a little something. Rule of six outside would keep me going for another month. Really starting to get to me now and I'm usually a sane rational happy optimistic person

Why are we being left on a limb with no hope when the vaccine rollout is going so well

I feel desperately worried for those that have mental health issues on top of this crap.

Because if vaccines take 3+ weeks to take effect, then there can't be immediate changes until a solid few weeks after all vulnerable groups have been vaccinated.....

22/02 is the date they’ve set to announce their roadmap. We all just need to wait a little bit longer and be patient.

This isn’t a quick disaster and decisions can’t/shouldn’t be made under pressure before they’ve reached a full conclusion with all the information available. That’s what happened with the second lockdown and look where that got us.

This is a marathon not a sprint.

Yeah get all that but sometimes you just need to have a rant and a moan. A glimmer of light

Well at the moment they have well and truly snuffed that candle out

I agree op. I'm usually quite positive and been plodding alone but i am really starting to suffer, mentally, and I know covid is real, I am suffering with long covid but really think we need a bit of hope. Everyone I speak to feels the same

It's not that long until 22/02

Would you rather have a proper update at the time all relevant stakeholders have been working to? Or just more (baseless) hints and not-quite promises?

We need the hospitals to empty out and new transmissions to be low (and stay low during the time schools reopen - and that's the priority with by far the greatest public support, not adult mixing)

And then it's very likely there will be further easing. I'm hoping that all the terribly isolated residents in care homes will be able to have at least one visitor who is not the other side of a screen

Focus on the day to day. Look for the positives, what do you have that you're grateful for? This does work. At the moment you're putting your happiness in the hands of others. Yes, it's shit but you are in control of your feelings.

It’s ten days until the 22nd. There’ll be an announcement then.
It feels like it’s been a very long January.

There’s currently 25,621 patients in hospital with Covid. There was 21,687 on 12 April at the first wave peak. We need those patients to recover enough to go home, or to die, so that there is space in hospital in case opening up leads to more cases.

Everything is going in the right direction though. Cases are coming down very fast, much faster than they did first time around. Vaccinations are happening at pace and all the top 6 groups look like having had (been offered) one vaccine in the next couple of days.

The government are making an announcement in w/c 22nd February about the roadmap out of this lockdown.

Personally, I would rather they took it slowly and only let us be outside with 6 people rather than rush to open the restaurants and send us back into another lockdown. I’d rather have a few restrictions for longer than have no restrictions for a bit and then back into another lockdown because the hospitals are full again.

Note- the hospitals are treating many people outside of the priority groups, so the vaccinations won’t affect the strain on the NHS for a long time.

It’s the hope that hurts you, would you rather the government go you a true date and plan or just guess a date and keep having to cancel it, which would get more people moaning

According to the daily mail today some MPs want schools back in March and things to open up. They want this in blood apparently!
Who knows?

the80sweregreat The same MPs will soon keep quiet and disappear and blame everyone else if we open up and we have another rise in cases

@Sirius99

the80sweregreat The same MPs will soon keep quiet and disappear and blame everyone else if we open up and we have another rise in cases

Of course! It's a nightmare but people are restless now. The support is dwindling a lot I think.

I know what you mean OP. Before lockdown we were doing regular 10 mile walks with friends in a group of up to 6. (No children involved so social distancing maintained but with the ability to have varied conversations). Since lockdown i have been restricted to walking with DH (and sometimes adult DS) and quite frankly we've run out of stuff to talk about as they're the only people I see most of the time. Occasionally one of us will walk with another friend but then that leaves one at home ( unless they are able to walk with another friend at the same time - in which case we might as well all be walking in a group of 4 but hey ho, rules is rules!). In spite of all the other things I'm missing doing right now I'd be happy if we could just walk with more than 1 person.

@the80sweregreat

According to the daily mail today some MPs want schools back in March and things to open up. They want this in blood apparently! Who knows?

I’m pretty sure I saw the opposite the other day with calls to delay.

Obvs both groups can exist, but a relief it’s not just the above

The government were initially criticized for being too optimistic. Now they’re being criticized for taking a more cautious approach.

Conclusion: they cannot possibly win.

@Dongdingdong No they need to stop treating us like children and manipulating messages. We are in an underpromise, over deliver communication phase of theirs because they failed so badly with over promise, under deliver. It shouldn't be a game, we should be being treated like the adults we are and been given information that hasn't been dictated by their latest spin objective.

Conclusion: they cannot possibly win

I think some people want to blame the government, because that's not as viscerally unsettling as the concept that a novel pathogen is beyond our control.

And it takes months/years to find a way to cohabit with it (get a good enough vaccination into enough people, and/or find an effective enough treatment; so that death rates are tolerable) and that's for one where the kill rate isn't that high, and the transmissibility is way lower than say measles.

Totally get all the reasons
Behind it - hospitals admissions etc

Teens stuck at home. Ds is starting to really struggle with the isolation

I don't want Resturants and pubs for myself but obvs massive concern for those that work in the sector. Just want to be able to mix with a few more people at a time and happy to stick to outside for another month or two.

The loneliness is the worst and yes I have dh and kids but like another poster said it's starting to be ground hog day. Can't motivate kids to walk now. Dark freezing evenings etc

Urgh

Hats
Off to
All the singles doing it

You deserve medals.

I agree with you OP. I think they should relax something now - outdoor gatherings in small groups, non-contact sport. Something low risk but just enough to give us a lift psychologically.

In the past the govt attempts to loosen things to raise spirits have led to cases getting out of control which has contributed to the need for further lockdown measures. Also when they have made promises they can’t keep to give people hope it has led to disillusionment and lack of compliance which can again cause a rise in cases and the vicious circle resumes. False hope is no good.

That doesn’t mean there is no hope! It just means you have to find it for yourself rather than rely on government slogans or measures which may backfire and make things worse. Actually the stricter they are the more chance there is that we can actually limit further lockdowns.

The government are not doing this for fun, this is very serious and quite honestly a lot of people are extremely irresponsible.
Nobody around here is following lockdown at all, my Somerset town looks like it's having a carnival and I haven't seen a single police officer anywhere.
If everyone takes responsibility this will be over much much sooner.
This is all of our responsibility and everytime we have been given a bit of freedom the beaches have been full, the shops have been full, everyones gone mad.

It's shit but no one wants to do this again ,cases were going down nicely in the November lockdown they started opening things up and then the Xmas fiasco and cases shot back up ,you can't blame them for being cautious 🤷

They've said they're reviewing on 22 Feb. That's a week away. I'm not sure what's not clear about that? The government have hugely mishandled this pandemic, we're all frustrated and pissed off. But we have a date for the next review. Let's see what they say. They might well allow outside meetings or whatever, just wait a few more days.