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So...true end of furlough?

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AlohaMolly · 11/02/2021 19:16

What do we think? The budget comes out on 3rd March, and I don’t think restrictions will have been lifted by April. Will they extend again?

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LittleDonkeyKong · 12/02/2021 08:37

Nope the pay periods used for furlough have now changed

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AlohaMolly · 12/02/2021 13:54

I can confirm that it isn’t a jolly holiday.

The Welsh Government are hinting that they may open tourism for Easter, so to me that sounds like furlough May end.

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megletthesecond · 12/02/2021 13:57

duchess
I've WFH as a LP with no bubble for a year. I still support lockdown for the foreseeable or else we'll never get out of this.

I don't want pubs etc opening yet but I do want the staff paid until it's safe to return.

GoldenPenPot · 12/02/2021 16:25

They should target it at the sectors that genuinely need it (pubs, restaurants, hospitality) and pull it for the rest.

NatashaAlianovaRomanova · 13/02/2021 06:19

@LittleDonkeyKong

Nope the pay periods used for furlough have now changed

Only for those who started a job between March & October & missed out on the original furlough. In your case the calculation remains the same.

SingANewSongChickenTikka · 13/02/2021 06:52

It’s not as simple as just offering it to those businesses that are forced to close. Each of those businesses is linked into a supply chain of businesses that are also impacted. Technically allowed to be open, successful and viable in normal times but no trade whilst hospitality and tourism remain shut. Think the baker supplying cakes to local cafes, hotel launderers, breweries suppling pubs etc

Neron · 13/02/2021 07:36

You can’t tell companies they are just not allowed to even try to trade and not pay towards that
But they have. So many of us in the ExcludedUK group are going through just that. Illegal for me to work/for my company to be open - yet not a penny in financial support. If mumsnet predictions came true, then I won't be legally allowed to work again until May. That is very, very close to a year I've been forced to close with zero income.

user1487194234 · 13/02/2021 11:37

I ,like thousands of others,are working 12 hours a day to keep my business afloat during the restrictions,with zero help from the government
While others can’t paid for doing no work
Very divisive

the80sweregreat · 13/02/2021 12:06

@user1487194234

I ,like thousands of others,are working 12 hours a day to keep my business afloat during the restrictions,with zero help from the government While others can’t paid for doing no work Very divisive

Yes , it is :(

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AlohaMolly · 13/02/2021 12:21

@user1487194234

I ,like thousands of others,are working 12 hours a day to keep my business afloat during the restrictions,with zero help from the government While others can’t paid for doing no work Very divisive

Just out of interest, absolutely not goading, what is your business?

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SpnBaby1967 · 13/02/2021 12:46

@DuchessofHastings1 I think Poland did that. Ended financial support but told everyone to stay closed and so the businesses, rightly, stuck two fingers up at the government and opened anyway.

I'm mostly furious that for a virus which isnt deadly in the extreme, has plunged this country into a debt that my children and my childrens children will be paying off.

Lockdown needs to end now. Everything needs to open up and privatisation of the failing NHS may be the best option since it's clear how rubbish it has become.

ItWasTheBestOfTimes · 13/02/2021 12:48

I don't understand why people get so annoyed at the idea of others on furlough. It isn't their choice and the policy isn't to protect individuals, it's to prevent many businesses from collapse so that when we can re-open things, the businesses and jobs are still there and the economy can bounce back more quickly than it otherwise would have done. Economists almost universally agree that it is the right thing to do for the economy, that our current level of borrowing isn't overly concerning when considering the big picture, and that ending furlough early will cause more harm than good in the long term despite the short term savings. A country's finances are nothing like a household's finances but many people have been taken in about 'austerity' and needing to balance the books.

And no, I'm not on furlough as I work in IT. DP has a business and has been working throughout. I do feel very sorry for the excluded group, they should have had support.

user1487194234 · 13/02/2021 12:57

In no way do I hold it personally against the people who are in it
Just would have been nice to get some help

DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 12:59

[quote SpnBaby1967]@DuchessofHastings1 I think Poland did that. Ended financial support but told everyone to stay closed and so the businesses, rightly, stuck two fingers up at the government and opened anyway.

I'm mostly furious that for a virus which isnt deadly in the extreme, has plunged this country into a debt that my children and my childrens children will be paying off.

Lockdown needs to end now. Everything needs to open up and privatisation of the failing NHS may be the best option since it's clear how rubbish it has become.[/quote]
Hasnt it happened in Italy too?

Good for them. People are getting desperate and they dont want massive riots and vandalism, they need to stop lockdowns.

Fizbosshoes · 13/02/2021 13:01

I work in a sector that has been allowed to stay open from the start (manufacturing) but I've been furloughed or flexi furloughed for majority of that time.we supply non essential retail and there have been several months where no orders at all were placed, and other months are orders are up to a quarter of expected sales. So technically I could go to work....but there isnt any work to do! (Its a small company and redundancies have already been made) Because the gov hasnt forced the company to close, it's not entitled to any of the grants available to other sectors so the only thing available is furlough. All other bills - rent, service charges, security, insurance,licences, utilities still need to be paid! This will be the case for millions of businesses.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 13/02/2021 13:08

People's perspective will definitely change . I do agree that many people have been kept on furlough just to lose their jobs a year later when unemployment is at an all time high and finding a job will be much tougher. It's sort of prolonged the agony.
I was the first of my team to go on furlough then get made redundant last summer , which thankfully gave me breathing room to find another job . The rest of my team found themselves jobless just before xmas and still the same way as we went back into lockdown.
Not sure what my point is , I'm rambling ,but I think furlough has given false hope to people who are going to lose their jobs anyway

raviolidreaming · 13/02/2021 14:13

When I was trying to sell my mum's house during the first lockdown our buyers solicitor was furloughed - why was a solicitor furloughed? Surely to god they just take a laptop home

But not all companies had / have the systems in place to allow working from home. Sure, take a laptop home... what then if there isn't the systems in place to connect it to the company's servers and software? Nobody knew during the first lockdown how long this would last, so I think it's understandable that businesses didn't plough money into working from home right at the start.

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