100 UK children hospitalised with rare Covid

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75% are BAME

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/05/up-to-100-uk-children-a-week-hospitalised-with-rare-post-covid-disease

To me, honestly, 1 in 200 or 300 doesn't seem that low a rate.

Measles causes encephalitis in 1 in a 1000?

This shouldn't be a reason to keep schools shut - but it should be a reason to try to reduce the numbers of kids catching covid.

Ksi Is killed and seriously injured

It says 1 in 5000 chance though

@OliveTree75

It says 1 in 5000 chance though

1 in 5000 chance of dying, but it said 'less than a half of one percent' of developing the syndrome, half a percent is 1 in 200.

It doesn't say that. It says:

But PIMS has been recognised as a separate, novel post-viral syndrome that one in 5,000 children get about a month after having Covid

It said:

It is thought Covid-19 triggers an inflammatory response among a very small minority of children – of all children infected with Covid-19, less than half of one per cent went on to develop PIMS.

??

less than half of one percent

Also the children I’ve met with suspected PIMS -TS weren’t children with additional health needs. They were healthy children who developed symptoms post covid. (antibodies can be checked)

It has been a small number that have either been treated in a normal ward or needed higher level care. It’s something to have an awareness of but it’s not happening in large scale numbers.

But the more children that catch covid, even mild asymptomatic infections you suggest more could go on to develop post viral symptoms.

Covid is still a new condition we are learning about the post infection developments and medics don’t know what variants will do:if anything different or nothing at all. Which is why we still should remain cautious.

@OliveTree75

less than half of one percent

Well yes but I think order of magnitude matters here.

If it is 1/5000, that is an entirely different kettle of fish! A much better kettle...

@InterfectoremVulpes yes that may be the case sometimes but in winter when beds are full and no beds are anywhere locally then it’s because they are full of sick children that need to be In hospital. Normal winter illness can really affect babies and children. It’s a very busy time in paediatrics.

Children can be sent home to be checked on by very experienced community nursing teams rather than take up a much needed bed, if they just need support and observation.

A statement with actual figures from the RCPH

www.rcpch.ac.uk/news-events/news/rcpch-responds-reporting-numbers-cases-paediatric-multisystem-inflammatory

There were a few days where 12-15 children were admitted in a day but 60% were not severe cases.

So it looks as if the Guardian have taken 12-15 for a few days and extrapolated that into "up to 100 per week". Very dishonest of them

Sorry, I think I misread. It says at peak 12-15 children a day were admitted for a few days.

But it is still dishonest for the Guardian to extrapolate that out into a weekly rate without any context.

@InterfectoremVulpes

A statement with actual figures from the RCPH

www.rcpch.ac.uk/news-events/news/rcpch-responds-reporting-numbers-cases-paediatric-multisystem-inflammatory

There were a few days where 12-15 children were admitted in a day but 60% were not severe cases.

So it looks as if the Guardian have taken 12-15 for a few days and extrapolated that into "up to 100 per week". Very dishonest of them

They also say 1 in 5000

Although the numbers are considerably low for PIMS. I think it’s good to let parents be aware of the symptoms.

I instinctively knew my 3 year old daughter had COVID last March but as she didn’t display the ‘classic’ symptoms and I could not get her tested, I didn’t get any medical attention. She had a slight fever, all over body rash and GI discomfort which lasted for months. Our GP at the time said that they didn’t know enough about COVID in children so put it down to a virus of some sort.

With this new information, I would urge parents of children with similar symptoms to get them checked out immediately as although rare, it needs addressing.

With this new information, I would urge parents of children with similar symptoms to get them checked out immediately as although rare, it needs addressing

Absolutely- this should have been the message being put across, not fudging of figures.

Who briefed it out?

@InterfectoremVulpes

With this new information, I would urge parents of children with similar symptoms to get them checked out immediately as although rare, it needs addressing

Absolutely- this should have been the message being put across, not fudging of figures.

Agree

I think the q is how many kids will have this once restrictions are removed so 90% of kids catch covid.
If the number so far is only under 20% we need to scale it up to 90%.

Naturally people will want to minimise and other

What is behind the recent growing misuse of the term "other" round these parts

@HSHorror

I think the q is how many kids will have this once restrictions are removed so 90% of kids catch covid. If the number so far is only under 20% we need to scale it up to 90%.

And also, based on the current quoted statistics roughly divide the risk by 3 if the child is white and times it by 3 if the child is from a BAME group.

As a PP poster said I don’t think we understand enough what is driving the BAME/White disparity. Everything has gone quiet on that front among adults too I feel.

@jimmyhill

Naturally people will want to minimise and other

What is behind the recent growing misuse of the term "other" round these parts

To other

Just Google it.

Language has always changed, even in the good old days language evolved.

Are other countries going to remove restrictions after 50s vax and let all kids get it though.
Are africa restricting it at all? If not is it affecting kids there with misc?

It needs to be looked into. I think some of it is linked to poverty but some of it is due to genetics. There could be an answer here to who is more susceptible to the virus.

@InterfectoremVulpes, no it's because they usually need oxygen and help with feeding. And many do end up in PICU. Winter 2019 was the worst for a long time. A few years ago, my (large children's hospital) had so many babies in, that we ran out of actual cots!