Self isolating.. then, another fami,y member tests positive...advice needed please

[Artyfarty555]

Hi, my teenage son has had a positive test..8 days ago so my husband and l have been self isolating...due to finish tomorrow.
But husband has tested positive too, after feeling unwell. So another 10 days for me and him.
My question is...does my son need to complete another 10 days of isolation too? Or is he allowed out as he has immunity after already having it and self isolated for 10 days.

No you don’t restart your isolation if you don’t have symptoms and neither does your son.

We may be in a similar position. When you look at those charts where different family members get it it says not.

However my first test and trace call told me that I wouldnt have to isolate again (I was positive) if another family member tested positive as I wouldn't be infections. BUT this would only be the case if when the next family memeber testd positive they dont name you as a close contact in your house/someone you live with.

Apparently if you are named under test and trace its then a legal obligation to isolate.

So we've just done tests on the kids and who knows... but I'm a bit nervous to not declare myself....!!!

We were told its only the person who is already positive who doesn't restart isolation....

No your son won't need to isolate again. You do though (as you may catch it from him)

This chart says you don't extend your isolation. Source - bbc news

“If other household members develop symptoms during this period, you do not need to isolate for longer than 10 days.”

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

Interesting question.
Colleague tested positive and had to isolate for ten days. Half way through a family member also tested positive. Total of five more days added on to colleges’ original ten days isolation. Confirmed by track and trace.
In all they will have been off isolating for three weeks.

Parlez that is exactly what we were told.

However that same document a paragraph or two down says you will be fined if told by track and trace to isolate and don't . And if you are put down as a family contact you get told to isolate...

It's like a little bug in their system.

Majestic...that chart doesn't make sense..the second child who doesn't get it doesn't have to isolate after 10 days.. even when the sibling catches it...and they are in the same house.

Husband has said on the NHS app ..that me and son live with him... on the test and trace app.
So, son can leave and go back to work...done his self isolation and even though hubby has it..he can't re catch it..but can he still pass it on?

Crikey. We’re 11 months into this and people still aren’t clear. It’s very clear on the phe website.

If you live in the same household as someone with COVID-19

Stay at home and self-isolate. Do not go to work, school, or public areas and do not use public transport or taxis.

Your isolation period includes the day the first person in your household’s symptoms started (or the day their test was taken if they did not have symptoms) and the next 10 full days. This means that if, for example, your 10 day isolation period starts on the 15th of the month, your isolation period ends at 23:59 hrs on the 25th and you can return to your normal routine.

If you do not have symptoms of COVID-19 yourself, you do not need a test. Only arrange a test if you develop COVID-19 symptoms or if you are asked to do so as part of a testing programme for people without symptoms. If for any reason you have a negative test result during your 10 day isolation period, you must continue to self-isolate. Even if you don’t have symptoms, you could still pass the infection on to others. Stay at home for the full 10 days to avoid putting others at risk.

If you develop symptoms while you are isolating, arrange to have a COVID-19 PCR test. If your test result is positive, follow the advice for people with COVID-19 to stay at home and start a further full 10 day isolation period. This begins when your symptoms started, regardless of where you are in your original 10 day isolation period. This means that your total isolation period will be longer than 10 days.

If other household members develop symptoms during this period, you do not need to isolate for longer than 10 days.

If hes said you both live with him then you're likely to get an official text telling you to isolate which they don't seem to be able go overturn.

Parlez yes its clear but people are asked on the nhs form when positive who they live with and then they are told they legally have ot isolate.

A friend tried to argue with a t and t person and was told they coildnt overturn it.

This is a real grey area. Test and trace have no medical knowledge and read their script off a card. 119 are the same.
A family member had a similar experience and a dr at the hospital said no extended isolation was necessary.

If l catch it from hubby..do we have to all self isolate for up to another 10 days? Or are they both free to go out? But obviously l will remain in...30 days !!!

It's like a little bug in their system.

Yes I’m aware of that. But OP didn’t say t+t have told her to start isolation again. Nothing would happen legally anyway. If it were investigated it would be clear on the system that she was already isolating and she doesn’t have to extend isolation if she hasn’t developed symptoms. Nobody is expected to do that.

Thats not what t and t are telling people. Or the texts and phone calls to check youre isolating. The script tells you its a legal obligation.

Artyfarty555 that's what always bugged my about that chart - I don't see why the second child isn't vulnerable to catching it the whole time there is an infected person potentially shedding.

But obviously l will remain in...30 days !!!

Imagine if you lived with 10 people. You’d be there for months!
Obviously not.

And op is likely to be told to as declared a contact by her husband surely?

A friends just been through this so whole family has isolated nearly 20 days due to being told it was a legal requirement and I'm keen not to have to so the same if not necessary (I agree it isn't necesary according to the rules) so a vested interest here.

Seriously if you’ve done 10 days as a contact and you’ve no symptoms then you basically need to not answer the phone to unknown numbers.

@ParlezVousWronglais

Yea we thought colleague would be back after her 10 days - as per the bit you’ve posted. Track and trace however have said no! So she’s out of work for three weeks from having first shown symptoms.
Either t and t are wrong or it’s a glitch in the system.?

I think this is the problem - t and t are telling all household contacts they legally have to isolate and can't seem to override this.

I wouldnt be comfortable going against that even if I know Im "right."

Up date... track and trace called hubby this morning to check on him and my husband explained the situation and according to him...we are both free to go outside again.
If we have both self isolated for 10 days and are symptom free then it's fine.
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Phew! Glad they've said that! My friend ended up in forever.

My family tested negative so I don't need to worry but now I cant work out how they can be!!

Yes, good news. My son and l are free to go out now..however while my hubby still has the virus,l shall only go outside to walk the dog and a jog if weather is good. I won't shop or start my new volunteer role at the vaccination centre till his 10 days are up.
Just feels strange having ' covid' in the house and being able to return to " normal" not knowing if l am going to catch it, or possibly have it with no symptoms.
But, the track n trace guy..definitely said son and l are free to end isolation period..10 days completed and no current symptoms.