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Dido Harding

155 replies

Cpl654321 · 03/02/2021 11:45

What is the actual point of her. She's in the news again today saying there was no way to know these new variants are coming. What?? Plenty of scientists were saying just that before it happened.

Why has she not been sacked yet. It's infuriating.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 03/02/2021 16:44

Emily is right.

The mistake that was made at the beginning with the testing was a decision to only do targeted testing once we were out of containment. IIRC Vallance has already admitted that was a mistake. That decision had nothing to do with capacity. That was then compounded by the government’s decision to set up a test and ace system from scratch rather than using and expanding existing PHE resources and university labs who had offered their services.

Boris might like to boast about the testing system being a success, but it’s anything but and huge amounts of money have been wasted for a worse service than we might otherwise have had. Not all of that is Harding’s fault but she hasn’t exactly done much to improve it and her prediction skills definitely need some work.

Emilyontmoor · 03/02/2021 18:02

It is actually really worrying that seemingly intelligent people are still falling for the government’s we did our best / world beating testing nonsense.

The highest death rates in the world and proof that money was syphoned off to cronies without any traces of the probity that has always been expected of governments (and when it has gone wanting has been the cause of resignations and public enquiries).

When they ignored standard public health strategies implemented around the world in favour of a crank scientific theory beloved of a slightly deranged History graduate with no government let alone Science experience ? When they were the first administration ever to skew SAGE so it would be more compliant.

When they ignored Sir Paul Nurse, not just with a Nobel Prize winner but someone with a track record in having bought to fruition the creation of the largest biomedical research institute in one groundbreaking building in favour of Dido Queen of Carnage? They really believed he would not be able to enable something far better if given the funding (which he did without it) ?

What does it take before people start to question? To appreciate that we might just have an incompetent and morally corrupt government?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 03/02/2021 19:19

They had more funding than the rest of the world too. £22billion is an insane amount of money for a test & trace system. There’s no way it could or should have cost that much. Where the hell has all that money gone?

It would have been better spent supporting people who needed to self isolate so they didn’t feel forced into work when they should have been at home.

Pomegranatespompom · 03/02/2021 19:26

She’s been utterly rubbish in previous jobs- she needs to be sacked. She’s an arrogant incompetent idiot.

Defenbaker · 03/02/2021 19:37

Awful woman, very annoying that she seems to be teflon coated, so nothing sticks to her.

ragged · 03/02/2021 19:51

Dido Harding reminds me of me. I find her quite relatable.
Which is a good sign she might not be that great at this kind of job.

mouldygrapes · 03/02/2021 20:50

This is very interesting and also makes the point about contact tracing

www.newlocal.org.uk/articles/covid-lessons-in-governance-and-leadership/

Contact tracing presented even greater challenges. Here the government established a national contact tracing system making use of the private sector and Public Health England, seemingly unaware of expertise available in local authorities. Despite repeated representations from local government leaders and public health directors, valuable time was lost before local authorities were given responsibilities and resources to contribute to contact tracing and to support people to self-isolate

Emilyontmoor · 03/02/2021 21:42

Dido’s defence is that virus mutations were not built into the Business Plan. Now I only have second hand knowledge of the testing debacle but I was a business planner for a FTSE company, and as per common sense you always explore the risks you can foresee so you understand them, quantify them and develop possible changes to strategy /tactics to respond. Mutation, like a second wave was a totally foreseen and probable risk. It’s is the unknown / improbable risks you worry about but still attempt to plan for. This was a highly probable risk given case numbers so no excuse not having a plan in place. It is as if she never made it beyond the very basics of any Planning textbook /model. It is embarrassing to the business community, who actually are quite good at this, or they wouldn’t survive. And actually the public sector who are also able to read to the end of the book /app.

PerkingFaintly · 03/02/2021 22:14

This is how she was at TalkTalk, if I remember. Everything came as a big surprise to Dido. Customer database got hacked: surprise! Customer database got hacked again: surprise surprise!

IIRC she had no clue and couldn't answer basic questions like whether people's financial information was encrypted. It's not just that she didn't know; it's that she didn't know that she didn't know! Didn't have enough of a clue to get briefed before talking to the media.

She appears to be at the mince end of the IQ scale.

But as pointed out above, she has fans probably just one who come out of the woodwork to defend her as she shambles her way from high-powered disaster to high-powered disaster. We'll doubtless be hearing, "you're betraying the sisterhood not supporting a fellow woman," and "you wouldn't talk like this about a man" shortly.Hmm Plus some bonus wildcard whine so off-the-wall I can't predict it.

You know what? I'm offering, here and now, to be that ill-prepared and incompetent for a tenth of the amount she gets paid: bargain for the taxpayer! I can't sit upright some days , but least I know I'm useless and will delegate to people who can do the job.

mouldygrapes · 03/02/2021 22:15

Just shows she was poorly prepared and completely unqualified for this post.
It’s incredibly frustrating that she’s used the “no one could have foreseen” excuse twice and been allowed to go unchallenged. Surely in a private company someone so incompetent would get the sack

IloveJKRowling · 03/02/2021 22:28

Excellent and accurate posts @Emilyontmoor - agree 100% with everything you say.

This post from earlier upthread really sums it up

The only thing that woman does well is exemplify just how corrupt the UK currently is. At the highest level

Dido Harding is one of many at the top who are clearly completely inadequate and unqualified for their jobs and people have actually died as a result. We have the worst death rate, the worst, of any country with over 10 million population.

I thought the private sector was all about performance related pay? Clearly not because her performance deserves no pay at all. I think it was actually criminal that they didn't get someone with appropriate public health / biological testing experience to take the job.

o8O8O8o · 03/02/2021 22:32

[quote mouldygrapes]@Emilyontmoor exactly so. So much existing experience and expertise was just dismissed by the govt and they’ve made very expensive mistakes along the way[/quote]
This sounds like a very trumpy way to do things ignoring the experts because you don't like the fact that someone else knows better than you
Sad

o8O8O8o · 03/02/2021 22:46

What does it take before people start to question? To appreciate that we might just have an incompetent and morally corrupt government?
Hasnt that writing been on the wall for some time now though?

CherryRoulade · 03/02/2021 22:54

Absolutely appalling waste of money on a failed private track and trace system.
Absolutely appalling cronyism in the appointment of an unskilled and unqualified person to run it.
Absolutely contributed to our multiple Covid19 management fiasco and the world beating excess deaths.

BonnieDundee · 03/02/2021 23:00

Well yes, of course it is a stressful jobshouldn't it have been given to someone who was up to it? Her response to everything seems to be "there's no way we could have seen this coming

Yes her record at TalkTalk wasnt exactly convincing

I don't know where they got her from

Crony of Boris and if memory serves correctly, married to a Tory MP. I dont think competence or knowledge was part of.the job description 😁

MrsFezziwig · 04/02/2021 00:35

I can only speak as someone who needed a test and who found the whole process to be an easy and efficient experience.

@wintertravel1980 well I’ve had five tests - does that make my opinion five times more valid than yours? I’d rather heed the opinions of posters on here who clearly are aware of how things could have been done more efficiently (and probably more cheaply) than someone who says “oh I had a test and it was fine”.

BigWoollyJumpers · 04/02/2021 12:20

heed the opinions of posters on here who clearly are aware of how things could have been done more efficiently

But are all these people really experts? I doubt it. Yes, everyone can have an opinion, that's what this site is about. But very, very, few people know of the complex decision making process that was part of the planning for the testing roll out. And to suggest that they didn't ask people who had knowledge and experience, is just not true. Harding was a figure head, and a crap one, but it is nonsense to declare that all the others actually involved in doing the work, didn't have sufficient expertise or expert knowledge in the field.

megletthesecond · 04/02/2021 12:21

She strikes me as a bit thick.

Must know where some bodies are buried.

o8O8O8o · 04/02/2021 12:28

@megletthesecond

She strikes me as a bit thick.

Must know where some bodies are buried.

Yes, talks posh but seems a bit 'slow' or not quite all there🤔
Clavinova · 04/02/2021 13:28

They had more funding than the rest of the world too. £22billion is an insane amount of money for a test & trace system. There’s no way it could or should have cost that much. Where the hell has all that money gone?

FullFact -

WHAT WAS CLAIMED
Test and Trace is costing £22 billion.

OUR VERDICT
The 2020/21 budget for Test and Trace in England is £22 billion, but only £4 billion was spent by the end of October 2020. Most of this is spending on testing, rather than tracing. ...

partly responding to a Guardian investigation into Serco’s contact tracing, shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth claimed that while Test and Trace “is costing £22 billion...only £785 million was allocated to local council public health teams.”

These figures need a lot of context. As of October, roughly the same amount had been spent on national and local authority tracing efforts.

Firstly, £22 billion is the annual budget for Test and Trace in England, but nowhere near this has been actually spent so far. ...

fullfact.org/health/local-national-contact-tracing/

Clavinova · 04/02/2021 13:42

nothing to do with capacity

Ireland [ROI] 5 April 2020;

Global shortages in supplies of reagents used by labs to test swab samples taken from suspected Covid19-infected patients has meant testing fell dramatically short of Government targets. ...

HSE chief executive Paul Reid said...that Ireland was in a “chase around the world” with other countries to access supplies of reagents.

www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-testing-irish-pharma-firms-source-raw-material-to-make-reagent-1.4221266

TheSexFaceOfEddieRoxy · 04/02/2021 13:47

I'm staggered that they gave such an important role to someone with no relevant experience, whose previous job was mismanaging a Telco

Emilyontmoor · 04/02/2021 13:50

Bigwoolley My "expertise" on the testing debacle may be second hand but it is a very close second hand discussed with me daily from first hand expertise involved in a public sector testing initiative, and I have also heard first hand from the Scientists, and managers who worked for companies like ICI, who volunteered for the superlabs what a mess it all was, unsafe, their expertise ignored. In one case a manager who was actually desperate for a job to pay the mortgage and his children's grant top ups, walked out of the building because he had witnessed unsafe practises that would never have been tolerated in the Chemical companies he had worked for previously.

For instance the Scientists who volunteered were flagging that the superlabs needed specialists in to develop the data systems and their interface with the NHS systems. They may have been experts in the use of PCR machines but the research they use them for generates big data and they know where to access the expertise to manage it. In fact data management is one of the biggest challenges for genetics research. The Superlabs Managers went instead with loading results into Excel. Anyone who has ever had to manage large amounts of data for any purpose knows that is an astonishingly bad decision. Excel is for small amounts of information. Not only that but they didn't bother to find out the fields it has available for data so they carried on inputting data after it was full. The loss of data that made the news was inevitable as a result of that decision, taken despite advice that it was wrong and they needed to get expert advice. Are you really saying that the people who went with that really astonishingly bad decision had sufficient expertise? As one put it "They made you feel like you were a nuisance. It was like go away little girl, don't bother your little Head about it, just get on with the PCR reading". This wasn't an ancillary task, getting the data to the NHS and to Track and Trace was vital for patient safety and treatment and for tracing contacts of cases, it was a core activity and one the public sector labs had already developed the effective systems for. Tracing tens of thousands of contacts just as the second wave took off was delayed. And this was October, not in the white heat of the initial set up. They had had months to address the issue properly.

Our Scientists really are extremely frustrated. You only have to read the minutes of independent SAGE, or the evidence given to the All Party Parliamentary Committee on Covid.

And my business expertise is from a forty year career in business to Director level involved in Corporate Planning for a FTSE company so yes I can absolutely say that Business Plans should, and do, identify and assess the probability of risks, which a second wave and mutations of the virus were, and plan for them. How can you deliver a mission if you don't plan to minimise the risks? There should have been plans in place to increase capacity. Business Planning is an iterative up and down process that should be live all the time, constantly evolving. Everyone who fed into the plan right up to the leader who signs it off is responsible for it as an effective means to deliver an organisations mission, and the buck definitely stops at Dido. However crap she is it is most definitely her job to ensure it is fit for purpose.

Emilyontmoor · 04/02/2021 13:57

Oh Mrs Cut and Paste is in the thread

Thanks Clav, you proved my point. The protocol for expanding testing in public labs included details of a back engineered reagent "brew" to avoid that world shortage which was down not to a shortage of the chemicals involved, but because of capacity problems in the companies that produced the brew. The small labs protocol therefore enabled small labs to make their own reagent brew with a flexible list of chemicals so they could sidestep any shortages.

Another example of why the testing should have been developed through them in the first place.

This remember funded by Cancer Research UK NOT the government