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Boris Should Have said at Christmas- Everyone stay in their own house

86 replies

Catwoman76 · 02/02/2021 08:18

I have always said since before Xmas the Gvmt should have said to public everyone stay in their own houses for Christmas. I truly believe we would see as high of deaths/infections.
We can all celebrate when this is over.

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Imissmoominmama · 02/02/2021 10:10

Yes, he should, but people still wouldn’t have used their common sense.

I know NHS workers (family), who work on Covid wards and still broke the rules.

I firmly believe that closing our borders last March would’ve gone a long way to stopping the spread too, but here we are.

Gingerkittykat · 02/02/2021 10:12

Nicola Sturgeon told us to mix with one other household at Christmas if it was really necessary and made it clear she didn't want us mixing and wasn't going to see her own family.

Most people, me included, was desperate for a day of normality. I saw one other household but know loads of people who did a lot of mixing. I knew there would be some kind of spike after Christmas but had no idea the rates would double.

ALoadOfGrief · 02/02/2021 10:19

Nothing to do with Boris and everything to do with peoples stupidity.

TheOrigRights · 02/02/2021 10:19

I have a pile of xmas presents to give to my family when we can finally get together. We initially hoped for Feb 1/2 term, but now we're hoping for Easter. I won't put the Xmas wrap away until the presents have been delivered!

2pinkginsplease · 02/02/2021 10:20

If people had just used their common sense and stuck to the December guidelines of no mixing house holds then we would be in a better place.

Surely people are clever enough to know that just because it’s Christmas day at the the virus is still there and we need to keep following the original guidance. Covid didn’t disappear because it was Christmas.

I read a story this week of a woman who had lost her mum, dad and partner as a result of covid and Christmas mixing and she said Boris had blood on his hands.... when are people going to take responsibility for their own actions?

As my mum would say if someone told you to jump off cliff would you do it without thinking of the consequences?

Glenchase · 02/02/2021 10:21

Yes I agree. He caused huge problems for a lot of people. My MIL hasn’t spoken to me since because we were “allowed” to go for Christmas and we “chose” not to.

trulydelicious · 02/02/2021 10:25

@Glenchase

Your MIL is being unreasonable

PowerslidePanda · 02/02/2021 10:27

I read a story this week of a woman who had lost her mum, dad and partner as a result of covid and Christmas mixing and she said Boris had blood on his hands.... when are people going to take responsibility for their own actions?

I saw that too - "If Boris hadn't allowed Christmas meet-ups, this never would have happened". So Boris forced you all to meet up, did he?

The lack of personal responsibility is astounding.

BrainFoggerty · 02/02/2021 10:27

Two words. Personal responsibility.

meditrina · 02/02/2021 10:33

@Davros

I thought he did. It's all a blur!
He did for England tier 4 areas.

Not his call for the devolved nations

If the difference between tiers is so readily overlooked, is it gong to be a safe way out of lockdown?

Davros · 02/02/2021 19:30

Oh I see. I'm not completely deluded

wanderings · 02/02/2021 19:38

Boris was so desperate not to be Cromwell, that he said in the summer:
"Normalish by Christmas."
Then "You can have Christmas for five days".
Then (while getting nervous) "It would be inhumane to cancel Christmas".
Then "You can have it for one day only".
Then, in total desperation: "Oh, a new scary variant has suddenly appeared known about for a while , Christmas is cancelled in the south east." Thinking "this is my golden opportunity to show the north of England that I don't hate them".

4cats2kids · 02/02/2021 19:41

I agree. Massive fuck up.

lovemirage · 02/02/2021 19:41

Neighbours in their 70's went Xmas shopping and saw family on Xmas day. Both now dead.

peak2021 · 02/02/2021 19:43

@wanderings Oliver Cromwell was the last British leader to kill over 100,000 people resident in the country at the time of their death by his actions/inactions before Boris Johnson.

Ponoka7 · 03/02/2021 10:30

Chris Whitty, JVT and Vallance all spelled out to not go visiting various relatives, over the two weeks, yet posters on here (and in RL) were planning that. Most times with the most vulnerable at the end.

As said, it's a matter of personal responsibility and accepting the consequences. The issue is for me, is that we all have to accept the consequences, via school closures, further job loses, cancelled appointments and a harder lock down with restricted bus timetables.

But, I do blame Boris for the availability to go on holiday and all none essential travel. The government knows people would go home for Christmas, especially across Africa. The Torys will take unpopular decisions that ruin people's lives, in terms of benefits/housing, yet won't take the decision to ban unnecessary travel.

Lollipop1234 · 03/02/2021 21:42

I don’t know anyone personally who caught it over Christmas, but then most of our friends were sensible and didn’t mix.

Our hospital is still very full though, and the death rate is high, which is attributed to the mixing over Christmas.

Some of the stories I’ve heard are very sad, but I can’t see how the government can be blamed. They pretty much spelled out the risks. But as the saying goes, you can’t cure stupid, and this pandemic has shown there’s a lot of that around.

I do get frustrated though, that we are now all paying the penalty for others mixing. And I also get frustrated that there have been such mixed messages on the subject of travelling abroad for leisure.

PurpleDaisies · 03/02/2021 22:34

I do get frustrated though, that we are now all paying the penalty for others mixing.

We’re paying the price for the government failing to listen to sage advice to lock down weeks before Christmas. We went into Christmas with far, far too many cases.

Lollipop1234 · 04/02/2021 07:30

@PurpleDaisies

“I do get frustrated though, that we are now all paying the penalty for others mixing.

We’re paying the price for the government failing to listen to sage advice to lock down weeks before Christmas. We went into Christmas with far, far too many cases.”

Yes they probably should have, but people should also take their own responsibility. We know this spreads by mixing/contact and we were all told of the rising numbers.

Most of us who are sensible completely limited our pre Christmas activities to essential shopping only, and chose not to meet with family members outside our household/bubble. If everyone had done this, including the many people (some of which I know) who fled tier 4 areas to stay with family for a week, which was never allowed even in the original advice, we wouldn’t be in as much of a mess now.

LApprentiSorcier · 04/02/2021 07:41

I agree but this isn't news - plenty of people were saying the same in the run-up to Christmas.

We could have mixed (tier 3) but didn't. Christmas was just the two of us - it wasn't worth the risk of mixing for one day.

I very much doubt that everyone in tier 4 adhered to the rules and I doubt if there'd been a national rule everyone would have complied.

trulydelicious · 04/02/2021 08:12

@lovemirage

Both now dead

I'm sorry for your neighbours, but they could have chosen not to mix over Christmas

SilverGlitterBaubles · 04/02/2021 08:14

Ah the 'Boris Saves Christmas' campaign which he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to scale down only days before Christmas when people had already made plans. Agreed that people should have used their own judgement around this (we did) but you can't blame the public who are told to follow government advice one day and supposed to ignore it the next. Will we ever know how many deaths were directly related to this decision to allow Christmas mixing of households Sad

Pimlicojo · 04/02/2021 08:54

Christmas was cancelled for many - in London we were in Tier 4 so no mixing allowed. DH and I had to cancel plans and spent Christmas alone.

Obviouspretzel · 04/02/2021 09:01

Great narrative on here.

Spent time with family at Christmas = stupid, thick, not intelligent.

Stayed at home on your own = clever, common sense.

If anything the stupid ones are the ones spouting this black and white dichotomy.

x2boys · 04/02/2021 09:15

They did ,they repeatedly said just because you can doesn't mean you should ,but some people are to stupid and ignorant to take advice anyone with half a brain could see that Xmas mixing was not a good idea ,people need to take personal responsibility too.