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Nobody can ever say "January 2021 will be awful" again

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Asrui · 01/02/2021 06:00

Firstly I realise that those who enjoy bringng down others can say "but how do you know February, May, December wont be even worse..?" Just to nip this in the bud, I don't know that, but I do know that there are people who LOVE doom mongering and for whom the combination of lockdown restrictions and what many (not all) people consider a mentally challenging month was like a gift from above. Well I hope those people enjoyed it while it lasted, because regardless of how much you want to be able to say this precise statement again, you can never ever say those words and use them to manipulate peoples' wellbeing downwards again

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frozendaisy · 01/02/2021 09:51

First thing I said this morning "no more January"

February is a short month.

And March is Spring.

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Asrui · 01/02/2021 10:15

@LizzieSiddal

If people want to hide from reality then fair enough but don’t expect everyone else to do that.

And go and ask those working on Covid wards or the relatives and friends of the 40000+ people who’ve died in January 21, how this month was for them.

Here we go, the "using the NHS as a stick to beat people who disagree with your point of view" post. I wonder how long here will be a reference to the Second World War? Also, how do you know that I am not a) in the NHS b) bereaved in January?

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DumplingsAndStew · 01/02/2021 10:25

Complains about people posting about Covid....
Posts exclusively about Covid.

BogRollBOGOF · 01/02/2021 10:30

The natural mid-winter peak respiritory system was always going to be tough. I'm no winter lover with short gloomy days and inches of mud at the best of times, so my mental energy was put into looking forwards to Easter and little things like waiting to see my new bulbs come into flower, and watching the daylight gradually stretch out.

It's important to acknowledge if things are tough and you're struggling. It's not so helpful to randomly catastrophise about the details with little substance to them, which some people do. Plenty of comments decrying that this is the way that things will be forever and those type of doom predictions simply have no economic, social or historical foundation to be viable.

I'm glad to see the back of January. The vaccination programme is remarkable news, and great for the long-term situation. It has exceeded my expectations. Even without it, just longer days, warmer weather and the natural decline of respiritory illness make life progressively better through Feb into March and beyond.

glitterelf · 01/02/2021 10:38

How are people meant to behave right now ? We're all different and we all have our feelings and emotions going on. Should those who are struggling not reach out for fear of being labelled a doom mongerer ?
What happened to the whole #bekind ? My own experiences tell me that I'm not allowed to talk about my struggles, my bereavements and my worries because it upsets those who are in a positive stance.
I don't want to bring others down but how does bottling up my feelings help me ?

DayBath · 01/02/2021 11:11

@DumplingsAndStew

Complains about people posting about Covid.... Posts exclusively about Covid.

Yes, OP has another thread about this currently as well. It's a bit ridiculous calling out others for banging on about it all the time and then doing nothing but themselves!

DayBath · 01/02/2021 11:14

Ignore OP @glitterelf , if you need to talk then go ahead and post. It's clear from OPs other post that they are struggling too in other ways but their struggles are not more important than anybody else's. This board shouldn't be censored because of one person's feelings, there are plenty of supportive people over on the bereavement and mental health boards, and the coronavirus section is open to ALL viewpoints despite OPs desire to curate it to his or her personal taste.

glitterelf · 01/02/2021 11:23

Thanks @DayBath I'm ok at the moment but it's been a bloody hard slog to get where I am now. Tragedy and trauma is all around us and whilst some people may not be directly affected I hope that these attitudes don't stop those who really do need help from reaching out.
It's also so important that people realise that whilst not everything is covid related lots of outcomes are affected because of it.
In RL I've found some of my closet friends being so distant because they simply don't know how to support others as they too have their own struggles.

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Asrui · 01/02/2021 18:40

I 100% disagree with the people who say that there are not people who secretly take pleasure in trying to bring others down. The fact that there are people after a genuine discussion of negative news does not negate this, in fact they are usually not the OPs (except those which are clearly plants using name changes to generate the opportunity to doom monger) but those that post after them.
As for all these people who have come back to me saying "nobody can say it WILL be shit" by saying "but it WAS shit", if you take the time to think about it the second statement does not in any way negate the first. Saying something in the past was nad is actually the opposite of doom mongering as by definition we have got through it. Noone can use the prospect of that particular months rubbishness as a weapon to bring others down ever ever ever again.

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Sparklingbrook · 01/02/2021 19:03

@Asrui

I 100% disagree with the people who say that there are not people who secretly take pleasure in trying to bring others down. The fact that there are people after a genuine discussion of negative news does not negate this, in fact they are usually not the OPs (except those which are clearly plants using name changes to generate the opportunity to doom monger) but those that post after them. As for all these people who have come back to me saying "nobody can say it WILL be shit" by saying "but it WAS shit", if you take the time to think about it the second statement does not in any way negate the first. Saying something in the past was nad is actually the opposite of doom mongering as by definition we have got through it. Noone can use the prospect of that particular months rubbishness as a weapon to bring others down ever ever ever again.

Flaxmeadow · 01/02/2021 19:04

but I do know that there are people who LOVE doom mongering

There are also seems to be people who "love" to read so called "doom mongering" posts, just so they can call other posters names, eg "doom monger"

DumplingsAndStew · 01/02/2021 19:09

(except those which are clearly plants using name changes to generate the opportunity to doom monger)

Okay 😂

Sparklingbrook · 01/02/2021 19:13

Doom mongering plants. Whatever next?

knittingaddict · 01/02/2021 19:18

a) in the NHS
b) bereaved in January?

If either of those were true I would assume that you would think January was pretty crap too.

DumplingsAndStew · 01/02/2021 19:24

So, moving on, does anyone think February 2021 is going to be pretty awful? 😂

Sparklingbrook · 01/02/2021 19:26

@DumplingsAndStew

So, moving on, does anyone think February 2021 is going to be pretty awful? 😂

At the risk of scare/doom mongering I don't think it's going to be any less awful than January possibly not more awful though. '

mrshoho · 01/02/2021 19:33

I'm trying to understand your point Asrui. So are you saying that if an OP asks a question eg What do think the lockdown, infection rates, hospital admissions, deaths, situation will be in January?, Would you have preferred if people had replied with only positive predictions?

Lelophants · 01/02/2021 19:34

You think people enjoyed January being miserable? You do realise they were just telling the truth right?
I honestly don't get why you'd rather everyone just lie. So weird.

Lelophants · 01/02/2021 19:37

Ok February will be wonderful and covid will disappear and we can all go on holiday and win the lottery.

Really that's better??

WithTheTide · 01/02/2021 19:40

February is somewhat surreal.

Nobody can ever say "January 2021 will be awful" again

Sparklingbrook · 01/02/2021 19:56

@Lelophants

Ok February will be wonderful and covid will disappear and we can all go on holiday and win the lottery.

Really that's better??

We need to all move to the Isle of Man they are having a fabulous February.

Wherediditgo · 01/02/2021 22:09

There are a fuck ton of people on this board who seems to be revelling in the misery of it all - not everyone, granted, but a sizeable number.

All the ‘I’m sorry to say’ or ‘I’m afraid’ phrases peppering people’s incredibly pessimistic opinion on what the future will bring (usually stated as fact) is very irritating.

I’ve said on the positive news thread a few times that many on the rest of the board seem to have completely forgotten there is a vaccine.

Pessimists are perpetually disappointed.

Wherediditgo · 01/02/2021 22:11

@Asrui

I 100% disagree with the people who say that there are not people who secretly take pleasure in trying to bring others down. The fact that there are people after a genuine discussion of negative news does not negate this, in fact they are usually not the OPs (except those which are clearly plants using name changes to generate the opportunity to doom monger) but those that post after them. As for all these people who have come back to me saying "nobody can say it WILL be shit" by saying "but it WAS shit", if you take the time to think about it the second statement does not in any way negate the first. Saying something in the past was nad is actually the opposite of doom mongering as by definition we have got through it. Noone can use the prospect of that particular months rubbishness as a weapon to bring others down ever ever ever again.

This post does not confuse me one bit. I completely agree with it.

mrshoho · 01/02/2021 22:23

is that you Asrui?

Wherediditgo · 01/02/2021 22:51

@mrshoho

is that you Asrui?

No. Definitely a different poster but to be fair, your post did make me laugh

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