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Social distancing to last all year

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Santastealer · 31/01/2021 08:23

The media this morning are reporting on a report given to government saying social distancing will need to be in place all year and rules remain until December.

But what then? What do they expect to be different by September?

Last August I was able to go on holiday with my family as a group of 8, are thy suggesting this year this won’t be possible? If not why was it ok last year when we didn’t have vaccines but this year it’s not ok when we do?

I’m thoroughly fed up of not being able to see my family and I need to feel an end point is in sight.

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secretllama · 31/01/2021 13:36

What is it with these freaks who want their own understandable lack of social invitations at the best of times to be indefinitely borne out by government policy? Try not acting the cunt for five minutes and you might get asked to the odd party yourself, then you won’t have to pretend you’re fine with your only friend being a yoga mat.

@MiddleParking absolutely agree.

Santastealer · 31/01/2021 13:38

Last August it was definitely allowed within law. It may not have been recommended, but the law permitted it for sure. My brother is a policeman so there is no way we would have gone if it was against the law.

My kids want birthday parties, I’m not prepared to scrap them for 3-4 years anymore. I’m getting to the point where I feel once most people are vaccinate then that’s it. I’m done with all the rules and laws. I want to live in a way that gives me some quality of life. Keeping away from my family and friends does not do this.

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lunapeace · 31/01/2021 13:40

@MiddleParking you are my hero!

WouldBeGood · 31/01/2021 13:43

@MiddleParking

Those who can't get along without group hugging and parties and recreation are selfish weaklings putting the rest of us at risk and prolonging the pandemic. You'll reap what you sow for a long, long time.

What is it with these freaks who want their own understandable lack of social invitations at the best of times to be indefinitely borne out by government policy? Try not acting the cunt for five minutes and you might get asked to the odd party yourself, then you won’t have to pretend you’re fine with your only friend being a yoga mat.

Brilliant @MiddleParking thank you
grapewine · 31/01/2021 13:44

What is it with these freaks who want their own understandable lack of social invitations at the best of times to be indefinitely borne out by government policy? Try not acting the cunt for five minutes and you might get asked to the odd party yourself, then you won’t have to pretend you’re fine with your only friend being a yoga mat.

@MiddleParking Preach!

faerin · 31/01/2021 13:47

@MiddleParking That was absolutely majestic.

Santastealer · 31/01/2021 13:48

@GabsAlot

missing the point

when we were allowed on holiday with 8 people?

Last August. My brother is a police officer and we wouldn’t have gone if it was against the law.

It was probably against some guidance somewhere, but certainly wasn’t law.

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justasking111 · 31/01/2021 13:48

@Santastealer

Last August it was definitely allowed within law. It may not have been recommended, but the law permitted it for sure. My brother is a policeman so there is no way we would have gone if it was against the law.

My kids want birthday parties, I’m not prepared to scrap them for 3-4 years anymore. I’m getting to the point where I feel once most people are vaccinate then that’s it. I’m done with all the rules and laws. I want to live in a way that gives me some quality of life. Keeping away from my family and friends does not do this.

We are coming up to a year my grandson does not understand 6th birthday why it is cancelled, no friends, grandparents. It is heartbreaking.
Delatron · 31/01/2021 13:49

Ha love @MiddleParking post.

It was definitely legal to go abroad last July/August. Even encouraged. I’m pleased I managed to get away. Especially if we can’t go this year.

stripeyIIIIItscmsfkmf · 31/01/2021 13:50

We are coming up to a year my grandson does not understand 6th birthday why it is cancelled, no friends, grandparents. It is heartbreaking

Really? Most six-year-olds understand what's going on pretty well. I would guess his parents have explained it to him?

soundofsilence1 · 31/01/2021 13:55

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-too-soon-to-make-predictions-says-minister-as-experts-warn-restrictions-may-be-needed-all-year-12204278

If they are saying even with a vaccine social distancing will need to last all year how are things ever going to get better. Is it why we wait for the rest of the world to catch up with vaccination? That could take years even without accounting for mutations.

yearnewwhatever · 31/01/2021 13:57

@Calmandmeasured1

www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/30/exclusive-social-distancing-may-have-remain-place-year/amp/

"Exclusive: Social distancing may have to remain in place all year.

Modelling suggests UK will suffer third huge spike in deaths unless vaccines cut Covid transmission significantly

Britain may not be able to abandon social distancing rules this year unless a vaccine proves to be 85 per cent effective at stopping transmission of coronavirus as well as severe illness, ministers have been warned.

Modelling commissioned by SPI-M, a subgroup of Sage, and passed to Downing Street suggests the UK will suffer a third huge spike in deaths unless inoculation cuts transmission significantly.

Currently, most experts think efficacy against transmission will be around 60 per cent but there is huge uncertainty.

The paper, produced by modellers at the University of Warwick, warns: "Only vaccines that offer high infection-blocking efficacy with high uptake in the general population allow relaxation of non-pharmaceutical interventions without a huge surge in deaths.

It makes for grim reading and goes some way to explaining why Boris Johnson has been so reluctant in recent weeks to raise expectations of an end to lockdown.

It is understood that SPI-M's other modelling groups – including Imperial College London and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine – have reached similar conclusions. "The exact numbers differ, but there is a high degree of consensus", a source told The Telegraph.

The paper finds that even in a best case scenario, in which vaccines stop 85 per cent of transmission in those vaccinated, lockdown would have to be kept in place until the end of May to prevent another significant spike in deaths.

If Mr Johnson lifted the measures in mid-February – when ministers forecast that the top four priority groups will be vaccinated – the modelling suggests a third surge in infections and deaths, of a scale similar to last spring, would follow in April.

If vaccines are 85 per cent transmission blocking, deaths would peak at just under 1,000 a day. At 60 per cent efficacy, daily deaths would approach 1,500."

If the modelling is accurate then all we can do is get vaccinated and hope for a very high uptake of vaccines to hope they will be 85% effective. Hope for a May relaxation of restrictions but plan for a great Christmas 2021 and hope it can take place. No-one wants this, no Govt wants this and they will only social-distancing restrictions if they are necessary.

Experts believe the vaccines will only give 60% efficacy so why are we being told they give much higher efficacy? Who the heck is right? Maybe they will be 89% or more efficacious and we can get nearer to normal later in in the year?

This was my take as well when I read it.

We have to bear in mind that people being vaccinated today won't have the greatest immunity for 4 months given the 12 week break and time for it to embed after. Then there is new variants to factor in and we don't don't about transmission yet so it's lots of speculation. But we are far from restrictions being lifted in spring.

IcedPurple · 31/01/2021 13:57

@soundofsilence1

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-too-soon-to-make-predictions-says-minister-as-experts-warn-restrictions-may-be-needed-all-year-12204278

If they are saying even with a vaccine social distancing will need to last all year how are things ever going to get better. Is it why we wait for the rest of the world to catch up with vaccination? That could take years even without accounting for mutations.

That's how I feel too. We were told vaccines were our way out, and yes, I know they're not a 'magic bullet' and now we have several great vaccines sooner than we ever hoped, and roll-out is going really well.

You'd wonder why we bothered, if restrictions seem to be here indefinitely.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 31/01/2021 13:58

@LucilleTheVampireBat

Is it really that difficult to stay home with books, phone, internet, tv, yoga mat, perhaps a garden

A yoga mat. A fucking yoga mat. That sums it up really doesn't it. So what if its illegal to hug your mum, you've got a fucking yoga mat.

Some people have no fucking idea do they?

I'm working from home in the living room and DH is is spending more of his time reading in the bedroom as there's nowhere else for him to go and he doesn't want to disturb me (I have no problem with him being in the living room). I must buy him a yoga mat so he's got someone to talk to!

Quit4me · 31/01/2021 14:02

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@TrustTheGeneGenie

Currently you're allowed to meet one other adult outside

So how is that stopping you meeting a friend or family member?

Like I said, you might be restricted in being able to do exactly what you want, how you want to do it, but you just said yourself... you can meet outdoors with one other person.[/quote]
How the f* can I meet with one other person outside when

  1. Family and friends are mainly in another county and I’m not allowed to drive there.
  2. I have 3 primary children to home school plus a job. I have to work pretty much 100% of the time in the week between 7am-11pm and longer to fit work in!! I also have to work one weekend day.
  3. At the weekend, I can’t meet a local friend because we both have children to look after meaning there is more than 2 of us.

Please understand - there are many more situations in this country than just YOURS!! Ffs

Yewrobin · 31/01/2021 14:02

My son had his birthday in the first couple of days of lockdown ... I’m dreading telling him this year will be the same

theDudesmummy · 31/01/2021 14:05

I can't see my family (parents and two of my 3 children) as they live in other countries. That's not being dramatic, it's a sad fact.

LucilleTheVampireBat · 31/01/2021 14:07

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swimlyn · 31/01/2021 14:08

The end point is in sight.

It’s about eighteen months away. I guess.

It still won’t be 100% safe then, but good progress will have been made such as getting rid of Boris and the posh boys.

The world will never be the same though.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 31/01/2021 14:09

My kids want birthday parties, I’m not prepared to scrap them for 3-4 years anymore

Many would like to celebrate but don’t due to the rules and safety of others. They can resume once safe. Far better a safer birthday than one that could have awful consequences

Santastealer · 31/01/2021 14:09

I can’t meet one other person outside as I live in a rural village 20 miles away from my family. It would be against the guidance to travel 20 miles to meet someone for exercise.

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Yohoheaveho · 31/01/2021 14:11

@justasking111

Anyone seen the pictures of the hotels in Sharm el sheikh abandoned or the beaches in Mexico overrun by alligators, this will be Europe at this rate.
Better be glad you had a holiday while you still could because 'That's all folks!'
MiddleParking · 31/01/2021 14:13

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

My kids want birthday parties, I’m not prepared to scrap them for 3-4 years anymore

Many would like to celebrate but don’t due to the rules and safety of others. They can resume once safe. Far better a safer birthday than one that could have awful consequences

You say it like you’re in charge. Genuinely, the sooner you realise you’re not, the happier you’ll be. There’s going to be an incredibly difficult transition for your type pretty soon if you don’t catch a grip of yourself.
ethelredonagoodday · 31/01/2021 14:14

@Yewrobin

My son had his birthday in the first couple of days of lockdown ... I’m dreading telling him this year will be the same
Same here. 21 March. Pile of pap.
PerveenMistry · 31/01/2021 14:15

Birthday parties, really? Talk about petty selfish problems.