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Am I the only one who is thinking this?

34 replies

cinammonbuns · 30/01/2021 19:24

This is coming from the other thread about the WHO saying countries who are ahead in their vaccine programme should help other countries after they have vaccinated their vulnerable.

Now there is a lot of outrage about this but is anyone else not seeing the bigger picture.

If we vaccinate all our citizens and let it run wild across the world, how long is it going to take for a statin resistant to the vaccines we have taken develop and we are in this awful cycle of lockdown and deaths all over again.

Is it only me that’s thinking this.

Yes if we vaccinate all our citizens perhaps we can all go to the park and pub over the summer but unless I am missing something it seems almost certain a new staton would develop and we would be back in lockdown by the end of the year.

And obviously this could be avoided if we closed the borders which I am all for but the government refuses to.

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Mousehole10 · 31/01/2021 09:02

I don’t think it should be an all or nothing situation. We can continue vaccinating our whole population whilst giving some vaccines to poorer countries. We will have 5 vaccines approved soon, in spring we will have excess vaccines for our timeline, so it is then we could start giving some away. We need to concentrate on our own vaccinations until then though.

lunar1 · 31/01/2021 09:19

We have contributed over half a billion pounds to Covax.

We can help other countries while continuing our own vaccine program.

hellsbells99 · 31/01/2021 09:24

If we give our vaccines away and don’t vaccinate teachers under 50, then I think teachers would be striking!
And what about all other workers that should be a priority after age 50 and over have been done, for example transport workers, shop workers, police, manufacturing workers etc

Unsure33 · 31/01/2021 09:31

Thank you @lunar1

Keep repeating that fact . Then it might sink in.

Glenchase · 31/01/2021 09:43

people would still die and we would still have lockdowns whole they are being made
Not necessarily. Everyone who has been vaccinated will have some level of immunity to a new strain, probably enough to prevent them getting extremely sick and dying. And if we manage our borders correctly we could potentially have a booster ready before the new strain even arrives in this country. NZ has kept out the original Covid for over a year by using sensible border controls.

lunar1 · 31/01/2021 11:38

@Unsure33

Thank you *@lunar1*

Keep repeating that fact . Then it might sink in.

I just don't understand why people think we aren't helping, our financial contribution per size of our population is massive.

We are sharing our genome mapping to help identify new variants.

Our vaccine is being sold all over the world at cost price. At the beginning of this month India was reported to have produced 50 million doses of AZ.

We are continuing to work on vaccine development.

Handing over a million or so doses of the vaccine is about as helpful as giving a homeless person a single meal. We can continue our own vaccine program while doing all of the above, the two are not mutually exclusive.

We also have the worst death rate-if every other nations published data is honest and equal. We have the right to protect our nation, if we bankrupt ourselves or end up with mass riots due to another peak how on earth will we be in a position to help anyone.

Mousehole10 · 31/01/2021 11:44

I agree @lunar1 we are doing a lot more to help than other wealthy countries are. If everyone else put this much into helping it would sort the problem a lot faster.

lunar1 · 31/01/2021 11:51

I think as a nation we are very self deprecating, we are never happy with the government and offer rightly so. We have become very used to comparing ourselves negatively to other nations.

It's important to see that the vaccine development and rollout is something we are getting right, as is the way we are contributing to the global effort.

inquietant · 31/01/2021 11:53

I am hopeful that now we have a US President again there will be more leadership and understanding of the need to pull together globally to tackle Covid. Presumbly Trump being a covid denier is part of the reason we have had such an ineffective global response in 2020. Johnson is not quite a covid denier, more a covid minimiser. I am also hoping the USA might persuade him to take it a bit more seriously too!

I agree we can have a UK vaccination programme AND contribute to global vaccinations but we will probably need to invest more in Covax than we have to date.

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