CEV can husband have vaccine too?

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Hi I get my vaccine as CEV. Can my husband get one too?

"CeV (ie elderly or disabled be disadvantaged if they fell ill)"

That's a bit of the garble of the definition of CEV

• there are no age criteria
• they are not necessarily disabled (though some will be and others have conditions that mean if they saw they selves as disabled they would count as such - eg those living with cancer
• the 'disadvantage' is significantly increased risk of death - can reach 30% for some blood cancers (and those with blood cancer are hideously over-represented in ICU admissions and have the poorest outcomes for all those with cancer) despite having near normal life expectancy in non-pandemic times. With a cancerous immune system, it's not terribly clear yet if the vaccines will work - which is why households of the CEV should be immunised, to give them some 'surround sound' protection whilst rates fall

Then cross fingers and hope that continuing research establishes if one or other of the types of jab actually works in those with the more serious co-morbidities

@MoneySuperMeerkat thanks - that’s helpful. I guess I approached it from perspective that you can’t really morally ask others outside to help if you’re ill with covid but understand your position, thanks for sharing to help me

@Angel2702 and @MoneySuperMeerkat - That does make sense, and I don't think anyone would argue that it does make sense to vaccinate the carer of a disabled person. But I agree with @Wingingit15 - that asking somebody to step in and care for a child who may have covid is not the same as any other disease - and even if there is somebody you can ask, it could only be as a short-term arrangement - what if the hypothetical single parent developed long covid?

@Wolfiefan

Why should he? When there are still CEV people waiting for theirs.

Because carers are kind of important. If the OP gets covid, only she is affected. If he gets it, he affects himself and her and she relies on him.

For the same reason, I think my SIL should be prioritised ahead of housebound MIL, as if SIL gets it, 3 people are affected, SIL, MIL, and another friend who SIL helps with shopping etc.

I can't believe that people even have to ask why it's important for carers to get vaccinated.

[quote PowerslidePanda]**@Angel2702* and @MoneySuperMeerkat - That does make sense, and I don't think anyone would argue that it does make sense to vaccinate the carer of a disabled person. But I agree with @Wingingit15* - that asking somebody to step in and care for a child who may have covid is not the same as any other disease - and even if there is somebody you can ask, it could only be as a short-term arrangement - what if the hypothetical single parent developed long covid?[/quote]
If need be social services would find a foster placement, which is a lot easier for a child without disabilities. If a long term carer needs to be found for a disabled child there are a lot fewer who are trained to do so, may need to be specifically trained or need specialist equipment, or an adapted property. As said above in some cases the only option would be for the child to be taken to hospital.

In case of long covid it is a lot more cost effective for the government to give the carer a vaccine than have to pay an actual carer a proper wage to do that job. If there are suddenly many carers that need to be replaced with professionals there will not be enough and there would be a huge cost involved. It is all about protecting the service the carers provide.

@redsquirrelfan the priority list is based on who is most likely to be incredibly ill and end up in hospital or dying.
No a carer who may end up being a symptomatic shouldn’t get it before CEV. Those people may well die if they catch it.
Never said carers should be vaccinated at all.

They did initially have household members of those who are cev due being immune compromised listed, as we might not get protection from the vaccine, giving all members of the household the jab would give an extra barrier of protection to us, however until it’s know if the vaccine lowers transmission they’ve removed the recommendation.

So in this case it’s not to protect the household exactly, it’s to lower the chance of the cev patient still becoming very ill despite the vaccine. I’m asplenic and it’s not know yet if we will have any response following the jab.

@Angel2702 - I'm not disputing that there is a case for the carers of disabled children to be vaccinated - I explicitly said that. My point is that there are additional circumstances that should be considered under the same logic.

Yes - a long term foster placement could be found for children whose only parent was suffering from long covid, but that's a pretty awful situation for all involved - especially if it's very avoidable.

Some Carers are being offered the vaccine. I know of two people who foster who have had it, both in their 30’s. I think it’s great - the more vaccinated the better.

There’s a lot of misinformation on this thread.
Please read this article if in doubt, it’s the clearest I’ve found.
Unpaid/Parent carers are in group 6. You don’t need to be previously registered as such, and you don’t need to be claiming carers benefits or similar, you just need to be a carer as defined clearly in the article,
You need to contact your gp, explain the situation, give your age, and ask to be added to group six when the time comes. Hope this is of help.

www.gatesheadcarers.com/news/unpaid-carers-are-on-the-priorities-list-for-covid-19-vaccinations

Also, there are lots of abbreviated charts for priority lists, that doesn’t mean they are limited to who is on them. It makes it unnecessarily confusing though.

The problem is that there’s a lot of people out there wanting to jump the queue for a vaccine. You do have to be providing regular care for someone, and for them to be depending on you for that care and that they don’t have other people who could easily do it. The part in that article about asserting yourself with the GP is at face value valid but could well cause a lot of delays for genuine carers and those with vulnerabilities and for 50-65 year olds.

@RosesAndLemonade I'm CEV and an SEN teacher so I've now been offered it twice. I can't have them due to allergies as it goes. My DH is my carer. Neither he nor I would expect him to be in group 6. That's totally unreasonable OP! Why does your DH need it if you've had it! That's a waste of a vaccine that should definitely go to someone else who needs it.
If you are a SEN teacher then it’s likely that if your dh was unwell with Covid-19 you could care for yourself. Carers are vaccinated because the people they care for would require state paid for care if they couldn’t provide it.

It differs between areas. Not sure why so many are accusing the OP of being selfish or unreasonable. At my hub we have been offering the vaccine to anyone (18+ only) in the household of someone who is CEV. So it's perfectly reasonable of the OP to be enquiring because some areas would indeed vaccinate her husband.

And who do you contact to make such a request?
As it says need to book in advance
Or can you just go along with them for the vaccine and ask then?

@Orangeblossom1977 some vaccination centre just offer if you go with your carer as they have excess vaccines. You can’t book a carer vaccine until group six.

I would advise you to try and book a vaccination slot for late in the day OP and for your DP to go with you and wait outside. That way if there are any leftover vaccines (you can ask the staffs) your DP will be in the best position to be offered one - and it would be a very effective use of a leftover vaccine.

I do think co-habitants are relevant. I have a friend who is CEV and whose dh travels on nationally all week on public transport for his job (unavoidable, and permitted).

@Orangeblossom1977 for our centres you just book as a patient normally would in advance. We wouldn't be able to accept households just turning up unannounced. We have a hub booking phone number which most patients book through, some book online through a text message link that they receive. We don't necessarily need you to have received an invitation to book with us as long as you fit our eligibility criteria.

Hi I just rang the booking line 119 to check this to see, explained I'm the wife of CEV husband, she asked me "What age are you" (I'm in my 40s) then she said it is being carried out in a regimented way *different to flu vaccine criteria) and would be just for him. She was pleasant and anyway that was what I was told, which is fine. I'll probably be in 6 anyway due to another health condition.

@Orangeblossom1977 pm'd you

@TheVeryHungryTortoise would you mind pm me also thank you.

I've been to two hospitals in the past week. Both were almost empty. Think I saw 3 other people getting theirs in total. My friend came with me and they offered it to her!

[quote MyDcAreMarvel]**@RosesAndLemonade* I'm CEV and an SEN teacher so I've now been offered it twice. I can't have them due to allergies as it goes. My DH is my carer. Neither he nor I would expect him to be in group 6. That's totally unreasonable OP! Why does your DH need it if you've had it! That's a waste of a vaccine that should definitely go to someone else who needs it.*
If you are a SEN teacher then it’s likely that if your dh was unwell with Covid-19 you could care for yourself. Carers are vaccinated because the people they care for would require state paid for care if they couldn’t provide it.[/quote]
That's quite the judgement! Actually no, he is my carer, and yes I do work. The two are possible. I'm currently not working though as I'm in hospital with a bad flare of my illnesses& I'm very unwell. Fortunately my work are very understanding. Actually, it works quite well I suppose as I'm disabled myself and then working with young people who are also. Its a very supportive environment. I love my job, but it isn't easy for me to work, be unwell and also have two children, so my doctors have long since said that my husband needs to be my carer and as such he is. We make it work. I appreciate that it might not be the most obvious link that I could work and need a carer, but that's the way it is. I thank you not to judge just on one sentence from someone you've never met.

Rosesandlemonade, I really hope you can overlook some of the posts on here. You don’t have to justify your situation to people on the internet.
As for people assuming nobody who needs a carer is able to hold down a job....really? And why not? Don’t be so daft. And disablist.

My son will need a carer of some level all his life. He is physically able and will probably get a degree. Very possibly a very good one. You would not know to look at him, or if you served him in a coffee shop anything was ‘different’ form any other 18yr old. I will be his carer until I die. And then, someone else will be. It might even be someone he’s in a relationship with. The reason for the needs and the form of his disability is never something he or I should find ourselves having to justify. But we do, both of us, in tiny and huge ways every single week of our lives. Why are other people’s needs and disabilities so hard to just accept?