Anyone else a bit wtf? with all the different vaccines?

[Throwaway99]

It's giving me a headache trying to make sense of who is having what vaccine when. And it seems there are new ones every day. I have visions of eventually having several different ones!

There must be different versions of all the other standard jabs, we just don't usually have any reason to think about if it's GSK or Novartis, etc.

No. I'm just pleased we have options.

We will just all get what we are given unless an individual has an allergy to one particular ingredient. I'm just glad we will be able to obtain enough to vaccinate everyone who wants one.

A few months ago, we didn't know which, if any wouid work at all, let alone work well.

Some have fallen by the wayside (eg Sanofi) but it is a briliant testament to scientific endeavour that so many were tried - and even the 'failures' enhance our knowledge.

It's an amazing achievement

It is amazing. The world hoped for one vaccine and have more than one

I'm not denying it's an amazing achievement. It just all seems so, I dunno, chaotic?

Which is understandable I know.

yep. I am quite way down the list for one.
When the time comes, then I will look properly into them all. Dont see much point doing so at present.

Not at all. It's fantastic

You don’t need to make sense of it. When you’re invited, go. Have the jab, without worrying overly about which one it is. If it’s been approved, it works and is safe, that’s all you need to know.

It's brilliant news. And yes, you may end up getting more than one, studies are starting to see if having a mix of different vaccines would be more beneficial than just one. It was discussed on R4 today.

@PuzzledObserver

You don’t need to make sense of it. When you’re invited, go. Have the jab, without worrying overly about which one it is. If it’s been approved, it works and is safe, that’s all you need to know.

But some work for this and not that. Some are more effective than others.

When was it ok not to question?

Nah, there’s usually about four or five flu jabs each year. It just doesn’t make the news.

You need different vaccines which work in slightly different ways, that's normal. We are only hearing about it because it's an evolving process.

Do you know which brand of flu jab you had? Which measles vaccine you had as a child? Or even which brand of antibiotics you took last time?

The doctors know what they're doing.

This is it I suppose. I don't usually know who makes what vaccine or how many people die a day or how many people are in hospital. It's just so in your face right now.

I know what you're saying OP. Such a low proportion of vaccines in development are effective and safe enough to make it to market. One or two in this timeframe was unlikely enough.

Normal pre covid death rate in the uk- 10,000 per week, all causes. Current death rate just from Covid- 10,000 per week

Current UK weekly death rate all causes 18,000

'All the different vaccines'
A year ago just the thought of those words were like a dream, and now here we are.

@joystir59

Normal pre covid death rate in the uk- 10,000 per week, all causes. Current death rate just from Covid- 10,000 per week

Not sure what this has to do with anything?

There are 22 different flu vaccines globally.
And countries do exactly what they have done here. Stock up with different suppliers. It’s just that you don’t know about it.
Now everyone is an expert in vaccine distribution!

It’s not confusing. It’s an amazing scientific achievement. The only thing is that the efficacy against the SA variant is low or unknown. And I remain really worried and appalled about third world access to these vaccines. These pharmaceutical companies are conducting clinical trials in countries and not giving them the resultant vaccine till 2024-2025. Canada meanwhile has enough vaccines to vaccinate everyone 2-3 times over. Same with the US and UK.

Really far from anything I'd call 'chaotic'.

ChaBishkoot wrote a very good post.

And same goes for ChocOrange.

Any vaccine news is FANTASTIC news at this point.

It certainly isn't chaotic. It's amazing and careful science. The fact that we have been able to produce these vaccines is a fantastic testament to the development of science in this country. Now we just have to get them to the rest of the world.

I know what you mean OP.

Can anyone explain why Astra Zeneca one seems to only be about 70% effective and the Pfizer one is in the 90’s? Surely you are getting a bum deal if you get the Oxford one? Or is there something I’m missing?

I don't think chaotic is the right word op. Lots of different companies around the world have been developing vaccines. We wouldn't be expecting them to synchronise with each other.