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Why do you think Germany has had nearly 40,000 Covid deaths in only 7 weeks?

38 replies

waltzingparrot · 28/01/2021 14:38

When I looked in the first week of December, that'd had 17,000 deaths. Just looked at worldometer stats now and they're over 55,000. That's nearly 40k in 7 weeks

We're constantly told they have one of the best track and trace systems in Europe and a properly funded health service. Do these figures suggest that these two things aren't as relevant as we thought?

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MyHeartIsNeverOnTime · 28/01/2021 16:50

[quote Fembot123]@MyHeartIsNeverOnTime, clearly I haven’t said that, I’m asking you to show me where it says this variant IS 30% more deadly like you said, I haven’t argued about it or said it’s not true. God forbid you back up what you are saying on a public forum.[/quote]
May is a given. Everything in science is a “may”. What do you think confidence intervals are for? Four independent studies have reached a similar conclusion. In fact 30% is the lowest number there. Personally I find the latest PHE take the most compelling, but I’m sure the government didn’t want to terrorise the public with the 65% stat.

BlueTimes · 28/01/2021 16:52

It’s worrying Germany have had such a big increase.

Mittens030869 · 28/01/2021 16:54

Possibly a new mutation? Whatever the reason that is a shocking amount of deaths in such a short space of time

True, but then the winter season was always going to be brutal, so it isn't all that surprising. A lot of countries are really up against it.

Fembot123 · 28/01/2021 16:56

@MyHeartIsNeverOnTime you said is, not may. If you don’t even believe the statistic you stated yourself is a true reflection you shouldn’t present it as fact.

Cailleach · 28/01/2021 16:57

Because it's in North Western Europe - high latitude, cold climate, short summers = vitamin D deficiencies.

lljkk · 28/01/2021 17:06

"It shows that track and trace doesnt help when the numbers of infected people in the population gets too high "

^That.

Blessex · 28/01/2021 17:11

@HalfPastThree my theory is that Portugal is bad because they have the Brazil strain running riot...

ConnectFortyFour · 28/01/2021 17:14

I have been wondering this for a while. Their numbers are really strange. Low ish case figures but surge of deaths. Makes no sense an no analysis in mainstream news

soundofsilence1 · 28/01/2021 20:51

@ConnectFortyFour

I have been wondering this for a while. Their numbers are really strange. Low ish case figures but surge of deaths. Makes no sense an no analysis in mainstream news
Portugal's cases have increased significantly from 4k a day in December to around a day 15k today. Given their population is only 10 million that is equivalent to around 90k cases a day in the UK.

The suggestion is that is is the UK variant that is driving these numbers.
www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/portugal-deemed-high-risk-brazil-strain-uk-variant-driving/

Babyroobs · 28/01/2021 21:01

Have they got the Uk varient?

ConnectFortyFour · 28/01/2021 21:24

Sorry, I was actually wondering about germany, not Portugal

EllaBob · 29/01/2021 08:06

We had 63k deaths 7 weeks ago and now have 103k deaths. An increase of 40k in 7 weeks. Germany has a 25% bigger population.

Obviously the above doesn’t answer the question asked in the OP, but just for perspective.

MarionoiraM · 29/01/2021 08:23

They main reason seems to be the higher number of older people catching it when compared with the earlier waves.
You can find some interesting data by age group here:
corona-data.eu/en/
(more current data, but in a less intuitive format here: www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Daten/Altersverteilung.html)

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