Childcare bubble

[HeyDouglas]

I've had a look at the rules and it doesn't say what work you need to be doing while your child is being looked after by your bubble

I am a SAHM - can my mum come and look after my son while I do my chores for half an hour?

If not, can you tell me why?

Forget the health risk, am looking at the rules online

Hardly curtain twitching to point out that making out you need childcare so you can hoover up. Let's all get a grip

It doesn't say it has to be for work, paid or unpaid. So you can legally have one for any reason you wish.

Doesn't mean its safe, sensible or recommended, but it's allowed.

Surely a 'childcare bubble' is for when you are physically not able to look after your child because you have to work or have a medical appointment not because you are doing the chores? Doing household chores is part of parenting and part of running a home, it is just one of those things you have to work around while watching your child/ren.

@LadyCatStark exactly. OP was given an opinion to their blatant rule breaking validation seeking question and then are rude when they don’t like the answer

@HeyDouglas

'I think' won't stand up in court.

Jeeeeesus are you serious? By what route would you possibly expect that having your mother in your home for a few hours would lead to your prosecution to the point of answering in court ?

Is there a reason you are not able to use your common sense like everyone else? What you are proposing could possibly be squeezed into the technical letter of the law but certainly you understand it is not in the spirit of what was intended. That being said if you and your mum have both been mostly staying home for the past 10 days and/or been very strict about precautions for walks or quick trips to the store I wouldn’t worry about it. Just tell the judge CokeandPepsi from Mumsnet authorized it and you will be fine.

It’s simple.

Do you need childcare? Yes or no? If yes then you may have a childcare bubble. If no then no.

That’s it. That’s the rule no conditions just do you need childcare.

Actually your mum can look after your kids, there’s nothing in the law to say it has to be paid work, even if that is implied and the intention. But she can’t come in the house when you are there too, as the adults can’t mix, so she would have to take your kids out.

Where will you be in the house when your mum is there? You are not meant to have any contact with her if childcare bubble, it's not for being social.

Why can't your partner look after their child while you do chores. You don't really need your mum to help

@MyDcAreMarvel

Obviously it’s paid employment, nobody is stupid enough to think otherwise.

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@HeyDouglas

I've had a look at the rules and it doesn't say what work you need to be doing while your child is being looked after by your bubble

I am a SAHM - can my mum come and look after my son while I do my chores for half an hour?

If not, can you tell me why?

Forget the health risk, am looking at the rules online

Don’t be ridiculous. You don’t need childcare to do half an hour of chores

There is no restriction on a reason for using an informal childcare bubble. There are restrictions to using formal childcare eg a childminder and these are that it must be for the parent to work, study, take an exam, or look for work. The restriction does not (in the law) apply to childcare bubbles.

I work part time and manage to get on with chores on my days at home with the kids the there... pandemic aside, would you seriously usually need childcare to get on with that? I have no family living nearby - it’s never occurred me to ask someone to look after my children while I do the housework

Just form one with your mum. There is nothing at all in the rules about having to work etc to be eligible. I know of someone who formed a childcare bubble so she has time to herself to do CBT at home.
Be aware that is it just for your kids though, and not for you to socialise.

No restrictions on what the childcare bubble can be used for, only that it is absolutely not for adults to socialise - drop (preferably at the door) and run.

What a vile attitude to voluntary work and studying some posters display on this thread.

What @MarthaWashingtonsFeralTomcat said.

The lack of empathy and critical thinking (or even just the ability to read the actual rules) on here seems to be at an all-time low.

@MrsL2016. You are 'allowed' to have a childcare bubble for any child under 14. You do NOT have to be doing paid work.

You shouldn't be mixing with the adult providing care for your child, but it can be at yours, theirs or in a public place.

Like everything though, there's a risk which you have to weigh up. Studying for a few hours,other adult healthy. Maybe. To push the hoover around, really not. 🤷🏻‍♀️

So you're a SAHM but don't want to Mum while you stay at home? So what are you? Chores are not 'work'. Cleaning your kitchen while your child plays in another room isn't the same as going out everyday to earn a living with your child tagging along. Fuck right off

If you want to see your mum, just do it! If you can clean whilst she's there, great!! I really don't know how much longer people will put up with these rules!

Ps- you're not a monster for wanting some support and help and to see your mum, regardless of what 90% of MN think...

I'm a SAHM and we had a childcare bubble because I was recovering from an injury. I broke my ankle in 3 places in the summer and physically could not look after my child, the only thing I was allowed to do was hop to the loo and back again, my job was to keep my leg elevated to stop it from swelling and absolutely no weight bearing. So my mum would come and look after my DD and me when my DH was working, this continued as I recovered and was allowed to gradually start using the leg again. I popped that bubble when we went into this lockdown as whilst I am not totally recovered I am walking and can do most things for myself, I won't risk my mum (she is CEV) to make things a little easier for myself.

I don't think you can claim a childcare bubble because you want to do the hoovering or whatever in peace.

I can't believe how many people here are puffing out their chests and spouting absolute rubbish. Read the rules. There is no mention any more of the parent working. Whether it's worth the risk to the grandparent for the benefit it brings the parent is debatable, but you really don't need to post on a thread claiming to know the answer when you haven't read the rules.

@rhowton

If you want to see your mum, just do it! If you can clean whilst she's there, great!! I really don't know how much longer people will put up with these rules!

Ps- you're not a monster for wanting some support and help and to see your mum, regardless of what 90% of MN think...

I don't think anyone is saying that. It's the idea of needing childcare while you do housework that people are eye rolling at when most of us manage to do it without childcare while working as well.

You don’t need childcare to do cleaning. Deal with it like the rest of us. You just want an excuse to have your mum round.

I’ve always said, the rules are quite clear, it’s just people don’t like them.

Why do people come on these threads and give answers that they intend to sound authoritative when they don't actually have a clue about the relevant legislation?! There is no stipulation on what a parent should be doing while using a childcare bubble. You might think it should only be for paid work but rules that you've made up in your head don't actually carry any weight...

If you or your Mum are a single person then you can form a bubble together. If you have a partner and really can't get chores done with your DC around, then you'll have to work around their work hours and do them when your partner can look after DC

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants thanks. Tbh I was being pedantic and trying to point out to previous posters that called people stupid for considering a childcare bubble for anything other than paid work. Very narrow minded. Luckily the nurseries are still open so I send my son there whilst I study.