AIBU to ask what is the worst lockdown rule you have broken?

[EmJay19]

AIBU to say a lot of (but not all) people have broken the rules to varying degrees once or twice even when they generally stick to the rules?

What’s the worst thing you’ve done?

I went to the pub with a friend when I shouldn’t have done as not from same household. Sitting outside would have been ok at that point...

People talk about strict lockdown and better enforcement of rules and curfews and so on...

In the real world, we simply don't have the resources to put it into practice.

We don't have a fit for purpose health service, we don't have a police force able to enforce these stricter rules and we don't have a government that will financially look after people sufficiently enough so that they can lock themselves away and not worry about feeding their children and paying their mortgages.

Of course there are things that people can do themselves, but pretending like we should have just implemented a China style lockdown and everything would have been fine is not realistic.

That what I said, about manpower.

@Nanette21

I’m certainly not pro Boris.

I do think many are entitled and selfish though. We also don’t see the manpower to enforce the rules. We should have curfews and certify why we’re leaving the house etc

I think this is the last thing we need. People are strongly kicking back against the measures already in place without adding more. If there were the resources to do this I would far rather they be diverted to helping people comply rather than forcing and punishing them for not.

Just because the government have done various things to mess up tje response it doesnt give people a way out of ignoring rules, when that goverment guy broke rules in first lockdown their were people on here saying they were ignoring rules. So because of one selfish person that somehow lets them be selfish. No it just made them selfish and wanting a excuse

Also i said to my mum if ur going to break tje rules at least own it. Fine u want to be selfish at least be honest and she did say yes she agreed

The truth is, none of us know whether we would be in a better situation if we had followed the rules. Animosity is arising because those following the rules feel like they’re being punished for the actions of those who haven’t. It’s certainly made me reevaluate my friends tbh

My sister is a single mum and has two kids with series additional needs. I am a carer for both boys to provide respite and also offer a therapy in trained in. When the first lock down was announced, there was no care bubbles for weeks. But I went to her house every day, or she came to mine. We still had a few drinks once or twice a week too, especially when her ex came to see the kids and we had a bbq. That felt incredibly risqué and like we were running a speakeasy but we didn't mix with anybody else and got most of shopping delivered as I'm m CEV.

My sister has, in this lock down, gone to see a single friend with two kids. The friend is a TA in her kids special school and as he had barely settled in before lock down, she's using this as a way to keep a link between him and school in the hope that when he goes back it will be easier. He is non verbal and seriously delayed so it's quite tricky to communicate with him and he Doesn't understand why no school.

Other than that my family threw a birthday party and three households of direct family mixed.

Me and my sister will see each other too share her childcare responsibilities no matter what. The police would have to drag me out of her house and imprison me for me to stop doing that. If it absolutely came to it then I'd have to leave my grown up family and go and stay there but that would out both of us in the same situation and at risk of burn out.

Oh, I have a gazebo that we built in lock down #1 . I have had a few friends over to sit out side and have a catch up but that was with their own drinks etc.

Not had corona. Still don't know a person in real life that has had a positive test.

@Nanette21

The truth is, none of us know whether we would be in a better situation if we had followed the rules. Animosity is arising because those following the rules feel like they’re being punished for the actions of those who haven’t. It’s certainly made me reevaluate my friends tbh

I agree with this, i have a special needs child who in first lockdown was out of her special needs nursery for nearly 6 months, they have closed again so havent been since 5th December, ur speech and language therapy has been postponed and also her Occupational therapy which she desperately needs she is non verbal, this is awful for her without routine of nursery and difficult for us as family. I can form support bubble but my family r not following rules so doesnt feel safe and they r not particularly supportive so i find being at home awful however im not selfish and im going to stick to rules.

Not had corona. Still don't know a person in real life that has had a positive test.

You also don't know how many people you've spread it amongst and who have gone on to spread it to others. All of whom could have been asymptomatic. Til it reaches someone who becomes very ill. And repeat.

@Bluesheep8

Actually I've been part of a pilot scheme where I had weekly tests for 6-12 weeks at a time both in and out of lock down. Every test negative.

Not had corona. Still don't know a person in real life that has had a positive test

I used to say exactly this.

To date, I know of 8 people dead. 6 of them aged in their 50s. I'm still shellshocked. I'm not aware that they ever tested for Covid, but they did catch it obviously.

Mil is childcare bubble and def does help with childcare but usually stays for tea after.

Not recently but met in the park with other families in groups of more than 6 (but probably about 6 children). But I totally disagree with the 6 person rule when most families I know have 4 people. It should be two households if anything. Not relevant now of course.

@FraggleShingleBellRock

Other than that my family threw a birthday party and three households of direct family mixed.

you may have been part of a pilot scheme and repeatedly tested negative, but what about the other households mixing and the people they may have unknowingly spread it to?

@Bluesheep8

Between us all , in my 4 house hold family, we don't know of anybody personally that has been tested and come up positive. We don't see other people but yes, we see each other. Our shopping gets delivered and three of the adults are furloughed so we only see each other Ona day to day, week to week basis.

I can see how you need to make me feel "less than" over this but the simple truth is that it won't work. As adults, with me being CEV and having been VERY careful for the last 5 years due to auto immune issues, we are best placed to make our own risk assessment. We aren't going out on jollies, Hugging people in public or sending children to school (despite them being vulnerable) because we want to stay safe and we will do that by staying safe together .

A great majority of the country are capable of taking this approach and making it work for them. The reason we are in this mess is due to the government . Not me and my very careful family.

The children and I meet my parents in the park for a walk once a week. We don't socially distance from each other.
My parents also look after my children for me once a week whilst I run errands. They don't social distance then either

@FraggleShingleBellRock

It really wasn't my intention to make you personally feel 'less than'. Being high risk myself and having not seen my family since the loss of a close family member in September I am questioning my own family's adherence to the rules, aswell as other people's.

The mental health thing. Can you please check in with any single parents you know after covid. Because these restrictions are remarkably similar to a single parent's life.

My parents are my childcare bubble but they do some of it at my house and we don’t immediately throw the kids at them and leave or vice versa. They had dinner with us the other night (takeaway to say thankyou for the childcare and homeschooling we can’t do because of our jobs!).
Hugged at a funeral where I’d been stood outside - I think everyone there did. Oldest friend’s father died. I think I have maybe hugged two friends that I wasn’t supposed to - friend just mentioned and one who announced she was pregnant.
Auntie and uncle had me stood in their kitchen the other week when I went to get some stuff we’d left there and then hugged me as I left. I didn’t stop them, as a human being with feelings 😳

Oh yes and when it was rule of 6 my family of 4 met with another family of 3 outside, making 7.

Reading about people hugging at funerals is making me feel like an terrible awful person for not hugging my sibling at our dad's funeral. I did put my hand in their shoulder briefly as I walked past after giving the eulogy. I hope my family don't judge me for not hugging.

I understand about the guilt thing when all you’ve done is go for an extra walk - took the DCs out earlier this week locally for their exercise - avoided the park, playground, didn’t go in anyone’s house, didn’t go in any shops or even pick up a cheeky take away coffee - however we live in a large village - bumped I into 4 different sets of school friends all out with their parents doing exactly the same thing. Felt guilty when I got home as with one set we chatted for a bit at a socially distanced distance - probably less than 5 mins - but when I got home I felt like we’d personally handed on the SA variant or killed someone with our bare hands. Despite us not seeing anyone for weeks and weeks, neither child being in school and DP & I working from home.

I don’t want to feel this anxious anymore. It’s rubbish.

I never stopped going to my long term bf's house.

I kept seeing my boyfriend and going to my parents house to see them and my sister right from the start when support bubbles weren't allowed. I don't feel guilty in the slightest, I live alone and know I would not have coped otherwise. I also just simply wasn't willing to risk my relationship through having no contact/quality time/intimacy etc and was so glad my boyfriend was on the same page.

I feel a bit stupid for not having seen any of my grieving family since my father's funeral now. Reading on here that people have continued to see boyfriends/friends/ parents now makes me think I should have thought F the law and everybody else, I'll do what I want.

Don’t feel stupid Bluesheep8

You have done what you feel is right and I think that’s what’s important here.
If I was to get it and pass it onto an elderly or vulnerable family member at least I would know I had done everything I can to prevent that happening. If I had broken the rules however? The guilt would eat me up.