If you saw this group of people would you judge?

[EatingAllTheCookies]

4 adults, 2 teens, 4 kids , 2 pre schoolers and baby.

Which would be perfectly within the rules to have a bubble because the family with the baby is under 1 year (or under 1 on 2nd Dec 2020)

Family 1 = 1 teen, 1 child, 1 pre schooler, 1 baby
Family 2 = 1 teen, 3 kids, 1 pre schooler.

This is out of curiosity.
This could very well of been our bubble with a sibling, but we have my DFather instead.

I have no intention of swapping or whatever it just made me think.. How many would judge if that was a bubble and we were seen in each others houses park etc

EndoplasmicReticulum

Devon?

@Throwaway99

I wouldn't care or even notice.

I don't know what I'd think but there's no way I wouldn't notice a group of 13 people

I would judge and I’d be rather cross with you all.
I’m at the ‘ coal face’ as it were. I see day in and day out the people who are loosing their lives to this, I listen to the families as they tell me ‘ but we only saw XYZ’, I spend hours listening to those with long covid who now see no point in their lives as they are so crippled by their fatigue and breathlessness months on .
I’m fed up with the “ I don’t care if I end up on a ventilator as I’d rather live my life” people as what they don’t realise is if they end up on the ventilator that means there is one less for someone else.
If you could see what awful, heartbreaking things are happening in hospitals right now then you would never contemplate a scenario where 13 of you met just because you could.

Yes,I would judge. Virtually everyone makes judgements all the time about everything. Even if you look and think they are probably two households in a support bubble, you are still making a judgement.

I think the intention of the support bubbles isn't matched by the wording. It is fine but isn't in the spirit of the rule.

It could've been me. I have recently moved a baby onto adoption and we had some goodbye meet-ups, outside, with the siblings. Our group was quite large as the baby had a large number of siblings to say goodbye to so there were 3-4 adults and children aged from a baby upwards. I am sure we were judged by others but it is permitted and indeed, necessary.

It actually sounds like a sensible support bubble from mental health perspective as each group has peer interaction (assuming they get on!) and if you weren’t going out for work or education, the mixing of two households would be very little more risk than the each individual household.

That said, it does go against the spirit of the under one bubble and rules against mixing households.

Denise - not Devon no, further north than that.
But I imagine it's similar in lots of places.

DH and I have 4 kids, eldest has a different Dad. We met their Dad, his partner, and his 4 other kids the other day. 4 adults 8 kids. Eldest struggling hugely with all the change and hasn't wanted to see her Dad. It was the best time the kids have had in ages, all similar ages. There were a lot of us and we got some looks but no one said anything. I'm not sure if its actually allowed but it was facilitating contact and it's its what my child needed to be able to move forward and see her Dad independently.

I rarely notice other people.

I'd probably do a double take because it's so long since I've seen big groups together...

Then I'd either notice the baby and think 'good, maternal health is really important. It's nice to see that woman has support'.

Or, i wouldn't notice the baby but would assume you had a reason for being together that wasn't any of my business.

Either way I wouldn't get hung up over it 🤷

Frequently see groups this size near me. I don't judge the number of people in a group because I know plenty of extended families who live together. I do bloody judge though when they walk towards me blocking the pavement so I can't move.

I wouldn't care. It's completely fine for a family with a baby to form a support bubble with one other household. It's explicitly allowed and is listed very clearly as a reason to form a support bubble.

I would take a dim view of the whole support bubble going out to certain places, such as the supermarket or other shops that are open, and would want to keep my distance from them if I saw them on a path near me, but the bubble itself would be absolutely fine.

Unfortunately if some of my local Facebook groups are anything to go by then there's a number of moaning minnies who have nothing better to do than interfere. One family ended up with the police at their door when they had done absolutely nothing wrong. Their 'crime' was being seen with a relative for childcare purposes. The police agreed it was a waste of their time, but I'm sure it made some arsehole feel important. They're probably on Mumsnet telling people to call 111 for standing in a relative's front garden dropping food off.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Sometimes a large but legal group meeting will be an appropriate risk/benefit under the circumstances, sometimes it’s just taking the piss. Only you know for certain.

I tend to assume the best when it comes to groups, because there are a lot of shared households of various shapes and sizes in our area, but member of my local Facebook group called the cops on two separate flagrantly illegal groups at the local park last week because they were fed up and don’t want the park closed down (also because when reminded politely of the rules they said “fuck off”).