So it looks like we're being prepared for children not to go back until after Easter

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/children-face-months-at-home-as-schools-stay-shut-until-easter-wp5ltpm82?fbclid=IwAR1l0gRSzuJLIv508reRmBEojbYfoGOsWwe3_pBFmKpA4EbI1IgC5dKC2uE

I suspected it wouldn't be until then, let's just hope that it doesn't stretch into the summer.

*if

Who are ya??!!!! A random stranger on the internet who feels the need to insult me because I’ve typed out the words “kids are resilient.”

I think you know that it wasn't the 'kids are resilient' line that's horrible, more the tough titties and whining rubbish.

@SoldOut, you are vile. Not for saying kids are resilient, but for the lack of empathy and care. Maybe your 6 children can crack on, but there are plenty of children coming out of this who will need more help than just cracking on. For saying what you said after they have lost so much, you are vile.

Thewiseoneincognito

SoldOut
@formerbabe

Dear God you sound absolutely vile.

Who are ya??!!!! A random stranger on the internet who feels the need to insult me because I’ve typed out the words “kids are resilient.”

Didn’t like what you read? Struck a chord? Hard to face facts that kids bounce whereas adults struggle?

They’ll be alright if you show them it’s alright.
They’ll be alright if you show them it’s alright.

THIS

Yeah. Absolutely. We can state this as a fact with 100% certainty, because all children are exactly the same, in exactly the same circumstances, with exactly the same resources and challenges, yes.

They’ll be alright if you show them it’s alright.

Please don't speak on behalf of someone else's children.

They’ll be alright if you show them it’s alright.

We might like to believe this. The fact is, there are thousands of children out there who are very far from all right.

We might like to believe this. The fact is, there are thousands of children out there who are very far from all right.

Spouting this kind of glib nonsense absolves the spouter from having to feel uncomfortable from engaging with the reality.

Why is it so hard for people to realise that just because your situation is a certain way, that doesn't mean everyone else's is the same?

As I said up thread, I think my DS is quite happy and enjoying being at home. I haven't noticed any changes in him at all.

That doesn't mean I don't know there are other children out there who are desperately suffering, and if they were my children you can bet your arse I'd be out there advocating for them.

I also strongly disagree that you shouldn't show children you are anxious. There is a serious problem in this country with not showing emotion and people being all stiff upper lip and just cracking on. Sometimes children need to know that adults get sad, frightened, irritable and angry too and that that is fine because they are only fucking human. The world will not end because negative emotions are acknowledged, validated and discussed.

It's so ugly that people are using the devestation of others as an opportunity to beat them down even further. We don't need this.

@Sparkles715

Someone asked up thread about who should be turfed out of key worker provision to make way for all children attending part time.... many many of them! My school has children in full time who have a part time working parent. We’ve had to refuse entry to children with one key worker and one SAHP much to the outrage of the families who said they were ENTITLED because one parent is a key worker. I’m sure some schools ended up letting these children attend. Our NHS medical staff are only sending their children in when they are on shift. Our university support staff are sending their children in full time when they only work 3 days a week for example. Refusing entry to kw children apart from when BOTH parents are actually working would make space in my school to allow ALL children some physical school time in small groups. It’s outrageous that some children are in full time with only part time working parent and other children are not in at all! Someone else mentioned school transport and logistical issues. My school has no taxis or buses so this wouldn’t be an issue. Schools should be allowed to organise themselves for the benefit of their own school community the best that they can.

Very interesting and confirmed what I have feared. I'm technically a key worker but wfh and DH also home. School clear that key worker provision is for kids with all parents working out of home so we have not used and won't be using it. However school still too full according to head. Not sure if piss taking by parents is happening at my kids school but I know if at least 3 people taking the pods and using provision when both parents at home!! Yes it's hard wfh with kids there but that's the case for everyone.

@faerin

It's so ugly that people are using the devestation of others as an opportunity to beat them down even further. We don't need this.

No we don’t. It’s very aggressive and not needed.

Why is it so hard for people to realise that just because your situation is a certain way, that doesn't mean everyone else's is the same?

It's been a common trend throughout this pandemic. Its weird.

@Totallydefeated. Spouting this kind of glib nonsense absolves the spouter from having to feel uncomfortable from engaging with the reality.

As opposed to what? Ignoring the very real suffering being caused to children at the moment? Pretending that all their parents have to do is break out the wellies and the baking stuff and everything will be fine.

Somehow, I don't think I'm the one who's not engaging with reality.

Apologies MessAllOver I was agreeing with you! But didn’t make it clear. Apols.

As opposed to what? Ignoring the very real suffering being caused to children at the moment? Pretending that all their parents have to do is break out the wellies and the baking stuff and everything will be fine.

Somehow, I don't think I'm the one who's not engaging with reality.

Agree entirely. It’s facile tripe. A little bit of baking and a freezing cold muddy walk for the four hundredth time really aren’t going to cut it.

God I bloody hate walks. All my 4 yo does on them is complain. Would rather stay in!

@Totallydefeated. Sorry, had a tiring day herding the toddler so misinterpreted your post .

So sick of the glib "They'll be fine". I've seen friends' kids who have put on kilos and are puffy and not sleeping. And they have parents with resources who care about them!

I am a very chilled out parent, with chilled out dc’s - they’re fine atm and like being at home.

Doesn’t mean the fact they will have lost nearly a year of proper learning, interaction with friends etc isn’t an absolute travesty though and that I don’t think it’s disgusting that the Government have thrown children and their parents under the bus. Yes, most children will hopefully be fine but we don’t really know that yet do we?

I feel so sorry for parents of younger children, single parents, parents trying to wfh and homeschool. I worry so much about kids from crap homes.
Im a sahm and only have to homeschool dd9 and it’s like pulling teeth trying to get her to do the work. She’s become very lethargic and disinterested in everything.

Not to mention the lack of exercise (we go for a walk every day weather depending but it’s no substitute for running around every day at playtime and games twice a week) plus far too many hours spent staring at screens. It’s really not good and anyone professing that they don’t understand the problem is either woefully lacking in empathy or just on a wind up.

I think the worst part of this pandemic has been watching people turn on one another. I've seen it in real life too, there is a massive divide coming between people.
I don't know what the answer is but I can only hope that when the pandemic is all but done we can also come back from our own divides.

I've seen it in real life too, there is a massive divide coming between people.

Yep. It's scary. On another thread you have a poster blaming the obese for the lockdown. People need scapegoats, on both sides.

The provision is all so uneven, that's the trouble. I feel lucky, in many ways. DD1 (y10, SEN school) is at home with one online compulsory session daily, then several optional zooms if she needs help with any subject. All work set online at the beginning of the week, but no huge pressure.

DD2 (y9, ASD) and DD3 (y7) have a full day of live lessons from their teachers. No homework as policy during lockdown.

DD1 needs my full support to access any learning. DD2 got anxious, but was allowed into school. Now that she's used to it, she's less anxious so is staying at home. DD3 is happy at home.

Our day is quite nicely routined now. But I am a SAHM, so I can do it.

Children are no more resilient than adults. That's just something people say because it's easier to think that than face the reality
That's true. And I would add to that-children have no control at all about the circumstances they live in, unlike adults. Some children will be getting lots of home learning help, kindness and support and have a huge garden, and a big warm house. Many others are not so lucky.

Suits me.
My DS is doing really well learning remotely.
No distractions from his friends.
Him not distracting his friends.
No 2 hour drive per day (in total).
If it means he safe compared to him dying (or causing someone else's death) I know which one I would choose.

Why has everyone suddenly discovered the word glib? 🤣

Littlewhitedove2

Why has everyone suddenly discovered the word glib? 🤣

I’ve been using it for..., ooh, I guess the best part of 35 years. It’s hardly exotic! Is it new to you?!