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Bubble and visiting England

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BBCONEANDTWO · 23/01/2021 21:02

Regarding bubbles and the fact we are all in lockdown. If someone is in a single household in England can someone from Scotland form a support bubble with them. If so can they visit that person considering all non essential travel is banned in Scotland?

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BBCONEANDTWO · 26/01/2021 17:02

Anyone?

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DoYouRememberTheInnMiranda · 26/01/2021 17:05

Just commenting to bump really as o don't know - my MIL went from England to Scotland to see her single mother, but that was before the current ban on travel.

BBCONEANDTWO · 26/01/2021 17:55

Thanks.

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mumwalk · 26/01/2021 22:40

My understanding is that bubbles should only exist within your own nation. It wouldn't work otherwise as they don't share rules or laws between them.

DdraigGoch · 26/01/2021 23:43

From what I can read of the Scottish rules, while you aren't prohibited from forming a cross border support bubble, there's no exception to the essential travel rules which would allow you to travel to visit your support bubble.

This is unlike the Welsh guidance which discourages long distance support bubbles but doesn't actually prohibit them.

mumwalk · 27/01/2021 09:16

@DdraigGoch Extended households (Scotland) do not exist in English law. Bubbles (England) don't exist in Scottish law. Laws apply to people that live within n these nations. You can't pick another nation to join with. If that was the case there would be nothing stopping me joining with someone in NI, France, Australia. You are absolutely right wrt travel, it is not allowed cross border.

FelicityPike · 27/01/2021 09:21

I’m not supposed to go to my nearest town to do my Tesco shop because it’s in a different council area, but aye, sure, you do that.
No, it wouldn’t be allowed.

DdraigGoch · 27/01/2021 11:30

[quote mumwalk]@DdraigGoch Extended households (Scotland) do not exist in English law. Bubbles (England) don't exist in Scottish law. Laws apply to people that live within n these nations. You can't pick another nation to join with. If that was the case there would be nothing stopping me joining with someone in NI, France, Australia. You are absolutely right wrt travel, it is not allowed cross border.[/quote]
I'm not aware of anything in Scottish law (or guidance) which specifically prohibits cross-border extended households. Therefore, once essential travel rules are relaxed again, you could invite your single cousin Fred up from England to visit as an extended household and you could travel down to his place where you would be in a support bubble. That they have different names won't make any difference.

Likewise, there's nothing in English/Welsh/Scottish law to stop you forming an extended household /support bubble with someone in France, assuming that some kind of single person support scheme also exists there. Obviously you'd still need to quarantine, be tested etc.

BBCONEANDTWO · 27/01/2021 17:55

Thanks I remember Jason Leitch saying something in the summer that you could form support bubbles between the nations.

Thank you.

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