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Is this allowed

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tigerbread20 · 23/01/2021 14:01

Someone I live with has driven 5 miles to meet someone, who has also driven 5 miles (ie they live 10 miles apart and met in the middle)
They left at 9am and are not yet home, she said they were going for a walk and to roller skate. I expect they will also get a takeaway coffee.

Is this allowed? It seems a long time to be away from home.
Maybe I'm being harsh, as a tired nurse working on a covid ward I think it's ridiculous but there's no time limit for exercise on government website?

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LizzieMacQueen · 23/01/2021 14:09

Scotland, England, N Ireland or Wales. We all have differing rules I understand.

In Scotland it is forbidden to stay out longer than essential. So the exercise bit - okay. Takeaway coffee - not okay.

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tigerbread20 · 23/01/2021 14:14

England

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CovidPostingName · 23/01/2021 14:17

England - yes it's allowed. As you've already said there is no limit on the time period in England.

Whisperinastorm · 23/01/2021 14:18

I think it’s allowed. There is no defined limit of “local” and 5 miles seems it to me. There is also no limit on the time you are exercising. No law against takeaway coffee either. As long as distance is kept when exercising.

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tigerbread20 · 23/01/2021 14:19

Thank you, will keep my mouth closed and opinions to myself then!!

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LetItGoGo · 23/01/2021 14:20

I'm in Scotland and saw a number of people out waiting for takeaway coffee today!

I confess one given up listening to the fine detail. I'm off takeaways right now as it's so cold waiting about.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 23/01/2021 14:23

@tigerbread20

Thank you, will keep my mouth closed and opinions to myself then!!
Probably wise when you have to live together!

Very difficult for you when you do what you do.

What she's doing isn't against the rules, but it is against the guidance/spirit of the lockdown. She's a twat, but not the worst by far.

Thank you for doing what you do 💐

JeanMichelBisquiat · 23/01/2021 14:23

Exercising only locally is a guideline, not a rule. Locally is defined in the guidelines - what they're doing is not within the definition. But they're breaking a guideline, not the law.

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tigerbread20 · 23/01/2021 14:28

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate it.

Its worse that she's an employee, who lives with me and I don't approve of her actions. But if what she's doing is allowed I shan't cause a scene because if she leaves I won't be able to work Sad

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tatutata · 23/01/2021 14:30

What's the scientific basis for your concern, exactly? Or do you just fancy feeling like you can control something?

DownWhichOfLate · 23/01/2021 14:31

It’s a lovely day to be out! You should get some fresh air as well. Good for physical and mental health.

roundturnandtwohalfhitches · 23/01/2021 14:31

A friend and I used to do this when in Tier 3 ( we are in 4 now and in Scotland) and I suppose we still could but we decided that it wasn't really essential and not in the spirit of things when they are trying to get the cases down. If I was a nurse like you I might be more than a little peeved.

RememberSelfCompassion · 23/01/2021 14:32

We drove today (about 6 miles but still in our borough) had a fantastic walk and stopped to get a takeaway sausage on the way home from a van in a park.

It was a fantastic morning. Lots of exercise, fresh air and sun good for mental health too. We saw quite a few people with takeaway coffee (although we took our own.)

This is all fairly normal isn't it?

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tigerbread20 · 23/01/2021 14:35

@tatutata

What's the scientific basis for your concern, exactly? Or do you just fancy feeling like you can control something?
5 Hours of no social distancing or masks, sitting in a car together to drink a takeaway coffee with someone not from my homeis a significantly higher risk than going out for a walk for say an hour. Its putting me and my family at a greater risk than necessary. Me and the DC went for an hours walk this morning, what a I deem a reasonable amount of exercise
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WalrusWife · 23/01/2021 14:37

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants - how is the person in question “a twat?” Confused

ChessIsASport · 23/01/2021 14:39

@RememberSelfCompassion

We drove today (about 6 miles but still in our borough) had a fantastic walk and stopped to get a takeaway sausage on the way home from a van in a park.

It was a fantastic morning. Lots of exercise, fresh air and sun good for mental health too. We saw quite a few people with takeaway coffee (although we took our own.)

This is all fairly normal isn't it?

It was fairly normal for us over the summer to do that when the rates were low - now we are in Lockdown we are just walking locally and not queuing up for coffees etc. But I don’t think there is anything saying you can’t. I just wouldn’t risk it where I live.
Underhisi · 23/01/2021 14:39

I don't think it matters how long you are out exercising if you can keep away from other people. It's social contact that is the issue.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 23/01/2021 14:43

Sitting in a car to drink coffee is a lot different to getting a takeaway coffee while walking or sitting outside. So I can see how that is annoying.

RememberSelfCompassion · 23/01/2021 14:48

I missed they were sitting in a car together. That I wouldn't do.

Takeaway coffees here are all purchased outside - I think thats pretty low risk. (We're too tight so take our own but I think with masks and being outdoors buying a coffee is fine.)

I'm clinically vulnerable and to be honest this is how I spend half my days everyday.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 23/01/2021 14:48

5 Hours of no social distancing or masks, sitting in a car together to drink a takeaway coffee with someone not from my homeis a significantly higher risk than going out for a walk for say an hour.

How do you know they aren't social distancing and that they are sitting in the car together drinking coffee? In lockdown 1 pre‐support bubbles I used to meet my DP for a walk every week once it was allowed. We distanced and when we sometimes bought a takeaway drink or food we sat at opposite ends of a long bench to drink/eat. We were usually out for a couple of hours. Many people are distancing on walks and being sensible when seeing the one permitted person. Do you have any reason to think the person you live with isn't abiding by guidelines?

RememberSelfCompassion · 23/01/2021 14:52

@ChessIsASport we were walking locally. We often drive though as our immediate area is hard to socially distance from other people as its roads/pavements. We avoid those and prefer to be in wider spaces.

We don't leave our borough but walking everyday for health reasons and varying where we go. I don't think I'm any more at risk a few miles down the road (less in fact as it's less busy than roads by my house!)

All separate to OP though if they're sharing a car. I thought they were meeting.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 23/01/2021 14:52

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

Sitting in a car to drink coffee is a lot different to getting a takeaway coffee while walking or sitting outside. So I can see how that is annoying.
But the OP doesn't know they are sitting in a car together drinking coffee, she just appears to be assuming or guessing. She doesn't even know for sure that that they have bought coffee. She said "I expect they will also get a takeaway coffee".
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tigerbread20 · 23/01/2021 14:52

Multiple Instagram stories and selfies together

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DownWhichOfLate · 23/01/2021 14:54

Drip feed Hmm

TheGreatWave · 23/01/2021 14:57

@tigerbread20

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate it.

Its worse that she's an employee, who lives with me and I don't approve of her actions. But if what she's doing is allowed I shan't cause a scene because if she leaves I won't be able to work Sad

I'm a little confused as to how you fit together, are they your PA and you need them to be able to work?

Surely though if you are working on a covid ward she is at more risk from you.