AIBU to think £800 fines is a good measure to help pay for the costs of lockdown?

[trulydelicious]

This really. It would go towards all costs associated with lockdown such as furlough, etc. Perhaps it should be extended further to cover other breaches beyond house parties?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55757807

Given only 18% are following isolation advice because of financial difficulty, I’m not sure that making poor people poorer is much of a solution to anything.

Yeah because a few £800 fines are really going to make a dent in the cost of these lockdowns

We will all be paying for this, and our children, and their children.

@PaddyF0dder

Given only 18% are following isolation advice because of financial difficulty

But these are parties (not someone going out to work because they have no choice). Have you seen the pictures?

How many parties do u think wld cover the cost?

@PaddyF0dder

Given only 18% are following isolation advice because of financial difficulty, I’m not sure that making poor people poorer is much of a solution to anything.

Is that true? Where can I find the details on that?

I think the two issues are separate. Whether anyone can afford to isolate has no bearing on whether they attend illegal gatherings does it?

Why would poor people be more likely to go to parties or weddings or wherever people are breaking the law?

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

How many parties do u think wld cover the cost?

Even if it acts as a strong disincentive, lockdown can end sooner bringing overall costs down?

Unfortunately you will find that collecting the fines will cost hundreds of pounds so there will be very little left to do anything useful with.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/uncategorised/low-adherence-to-self-isolation-among-those-with-covid-19-symptoms-study-shows/

The isolation % has been reported widely in the news ove rthe last couple of days - linnd to stores about the leaked thoughts of £500 for every positive test.

sorry this one is not hidden
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-self-isolation-uk-rules-symptoms-police-fines-b594240.html

@anniegun

Yes, I agree this 18% is a broader issue, and as the article points out, people break self-isolation rules not only to go to work (but to go to the shops, etc)

I think it's very convenient to be emphasizing the (very rare) houseparties, and not the policies that mean, this time, employers are far more likely to be forcing you into confined, non covid-secure workspaces, and not furloughing staff.

There should have been support for employees to be able to refuse.

[quote anniegun]sorry this one is not hidden
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-self-isolation-uk-rules-symptoms-police-fines-b594240.html[/quote]
Thank you, I see that data is quite out of date, I wonder if the %age is still the same now that it's down to 10 days and so many aren't actually going out to work now.

@PaddyF0dder

Given only 18% are following isolation advice because of financial difficulty, I’m not sure that making poor people poorer is much of a solution to anything.

That’s a huge amount not isolating, it can’t all be done to pay surely given how many people are working from home, employers still paying salaries etc.

@ArchbishopOfBanterbury

I don't know that parties are 'very rare' and hence they are spinnig this. Even if they were, the very few that take place are still problematic

There should have been support for employees to be able to refuse

This is a separate issue, and should be dealt with appropriately

This is standard Tory divide and rule bullshit anyway. Blame the public instead of examining their shitty incompetence at managing the pandemic.