If a city is quicker at vaccinating, can they vaccinate further down the list?

[doireallyneedaname]

Just that.

If as an example my city has a small population of elderly and vulnerable and vaccination is completely within a month, would they move on down the list to vaccinate everyone else? Or will there be a pause?

I don't know for sure but I think each area works on its own, eg the next local authority near us has done all over 80's so are now moving to over 75's. Ours is still doing over 80's. Its all being done as quickly as possible according to any NHS staff I know.

They just move down. My parents area (south London) are now doing over 75s and said they will be moving to the next group in a week or so.

Yes. We have done all our 80+ and nearly all out 75-79 so will be moving on to 70-74 and shielding soon.

When they have the vaccine, they carry on down the list.

But the central coordination of national vaccine supplies sends it to the places with greatest numbers still to get through, to reduce the postcode lottery element as far as possible.

But surely it will depend on how the vaccines are being allocated to the centres. If they can just draw down how many vaccines they want, then I guess they can go down the list.

But are they being allocated to health authorities/ centres based on data of numbers of priority groups? I'd guess this, but i have no idea!

Well that’s good news. Where I am only 11% of the population are 80+ (6,000 people) and 71% are 16-64 (70,000)

I imagine I’ll be offered it much sooner than autumn and I’m 32.

I did hear an expert saying they were trying to avoid that happening.

To me it indicates an issue with communication/distribution.

It depends how much vaccine is being made available. If there are restrictions on supply then areas who completed groups 1-4 might be first to have it limited rather than areas with a large vulnerable population still needing vaccine, if not then they'll just move down the list to groups 5-8.

I'm in an area that has also starting calling over 75s so further on with over 80s. At a national level, the idea is that supply levels should be organised so that there isn't massive variation though. So I wouldn't expect any area to have done more than moved on to the next priority category.

I’m in London so far we not getting the same amount per head as other areas. So some areas are starting to give 65s while there are 80y olds in other areas not yet had.

Think some areas 80y olds are all done London less than 30%. They are holding back those areas so other areas can catch up. Not exact but I would have thought no more than one group ahead.

They must be able to
My GP surgery has done half of group 1
The next county is vaccinating group 4

Assuming you aren’t clinically vulnerable or in a priority profession - That seems very selfish and unfair that you would expect vaccination in advance of others much higher up the priority list who live elsewhere.

I would imagine that this is being administered at least regionally if not nationally would send additional supplies to other areas.

I'm in London and early 70s PIL have been given appointments for next week, so it also depends where you are in London. I believe it was primarily North and East London as well as parts of SE and SW regions that needed extra vaccine supplies, rather than everywhere in London. It should all start to balance fairly quickly as everywhere ramps up, it feels like ages but we've not quite finished week 2 of Oxford.

My parents who are in the 70+ category have been done and the only reason we can think of is that they are at a gp surgery that generally serves a student population so has disproportionately fewer oldies.

It was on BBC London the 30% figure and the mayor was complaining about it. Think they are doing as best they can it’s not going be exact.

I live in an area with a high proportion of elderly. They only started vaccinating over 80s just over a week ago. I'm group 6. So from what I've read on here, I could be waiting a lot longer than other areas of the country? Is that really fair? Should it not be that areas lagging behind (I'm assuming logistics caused us to be behind. We aren't near a large city) that more vaccine and personnel are deployed to support rather than we all just get pushed further behind?

@doireallyneedaname

Well that’s good news. Where I am only 11% of the population are 80+ (6,000 people) and 71% are 16-64 (70,000)

I imagine I’ll be offered it much sooner than autumn and I’m 32.

Well probably not because vaccine supplies, once all your priority 1-4s have been done, will be diverted to areas who still have those priority groups to finish.

Whilst I'm super pleased some areas are doing well with this, it makes me really frustrated and sad that my 90+ year old grandparents haven't had theirs yet. It just doesn't seem right?

Not really. It’s not down to me to allocate the vaccine and if I’m offered it I’m hardly going to refuse on the basis that “somebody else in the country needs it more.”

Will they, though? That’s what I’m asking really and I don’t believe this has been confirmed. I’m happy for this to happen, obviously!

Friends of ours in their 80’s forgot to check their answer machine for a couple of days and when they did there was a message regarding vaccinations for them both. They both missed their slot.

I'm in the Midlands and my 78 year old MIL has just been offered an appointment.

I think they are trying to allocate proportionately based on which areas have the most at risk categories. But the mass vaccination centres alter that.

There are people in care homes or house bound who require more coordination, it's better that every available appointment is full even if a patient aged 95 and he's bound at home can't yet be reached.

I know of over 80's who are eligible for the mass vaccination centres but are waiting for a GP invitation as their local surgery is also vaccinating.

Eventually there will be places to get vaccinated local to everyone, so if they really can't get a taxi, then they should notify their GP and see what the alternatives are.

You see, I received a text last night telling me where my mass vaccination centre is and that I’d be contacted within the coming weeks to book.

I'm really confused, OP. Are you in one of the 8 priority groups? Why would you be offered a vaccine? I understand your point of 'not going to refuse' but the situation of a healthy 32 year old getting a vaccine before someone in the priority groups is plain wrong. Surely your test is a mistake if like I said, your not NHS or a care worker, CEV or CV?

I think if you turned up being 50 years younger than the other patients, they may question whether they've got you in the correct queue!