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nursery to still be face to face learning?

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firthy85 · 16/01/2021 07:50

was wondering who has a dc that is in nursery and do you really feel comfortable with it?. at beginning of pandemic i felt very sceptical as to whether it really is as bad and have been in the past very vocal on mn about thinking that we were just being lead to believe things were as bad as they are but following the news of this second wave is making me change my views a little. personally if i did ahve kids i wouldn't feel comfortable at all knowing what i do now know. not to mention the fact that part of the guideance is to have all enclosed spaces ventilated in other words all windows to remain open. in lamens terms to me your child has the choice catch covid or catch pneumonia. feels so rediculous would love to read your experiences of all this?

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Parkermumma07 · 16/01/2021 07:53

Some people have no choice other than send their children to nursery, I work full time as a police officer as does my husband so unfortunately we don’t get to choose wether our child goes or not!

Aimee1987 · 16/01/2021 07:58

Alot of people dont have a choice. I wfh on some days but I do live online teaching sessions which are impossible to do with a 1 year old clambering over me. On the days I'm not wfh I'm in a research lab. My DP works in a key worker role out of the house.
If we take my son out of nursery one of us ( probably me) would have to quit our jobs.
There are alot of people in the same boat.

2021sunshine · 16/01/2021 08:03

Lots of people don’t have a choice whether to send children to nursery or school.

If you don’t need to use the provision don’t.
Meanwhile stop increasing the anxieties of those of us that have no choice.

Like you said “if” I had kids. Well you don’t and it’s not a decision you need to worry about.

SilenceOfThePrams · 16/01/2021 08:05

Neither child nor teacher will catch pneumonia from having the windows open, so you can cross that worry off your list. Nursery schools locally are mostly set up with an outdoor classroom as well as an indoor one, and use it year round in all weathers covid or not. As long as everyone is dressed for the weather that won’t be an issue.

As far as should children be there - your hypothetical children might not need nursery but many real children actually do. Some people can keep them at home and some can’t. Reduced numbers gives each child more space. No it’s not ideal and I think school and childcare staff should be on the priority list for vaccinations. But it’s probably as good as it can be, striking a balance between covid and other issues.

inquietant · 16/01/2021 08:09

OP - I am glad you have started to consider the reality of the second wave. I'm interested to know what changed your mind?

Covid denial is very scary, IMO.

IrishMamaMia · 16/01/2021 08:10

I'm more worried that there are zero activities going on in real life for the development of early years so as. I work, I drop my kids off at nursery each day and thank god that this sense of normality is there for us for now.
I think nursery workers should be vaccinated now. I know NHS workers who aren't frontline who have already had the vaccine.

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firthy85 · 16/01/2021 08:11

um who said i wrote this to causeanxiety to anyone. it was a genuine question nothing more nothing less to read into it. and whether a person has kids or doesn't it doesn't stop them asking a question or joining in a discussion

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BigGreen · 16/01/2021 08:12

I have a DC at a child minder and I'm relaxed about it as the risks to him are very low. If he didn't go one of us would have to quit work which wouldn't be in the kids best interest either.

Jrobhatch29 · 16/01/2021 08:15

They won't get pnemonia don't be ridiculous. Most nurseries are free flow to the outdoors anyway so the doors are always open regardless of covid. The feeder nursery for my school is an outdoors nursery. They don't get pnemonia. Parents who work don't have a choice. My little girl will be going to nursery at the end of my maternity. No choice. However after a total lack of socialisation i think it will be just what she needs!

AnaisNun · 16/01/2021 08:17

Forget windows- my DS is at a forest school nursery 4 days a week. Including in the snow this week. They had some time in the building but not much.

He is yet to catch anything, let alone pneumonia.

KatherineOfGaunt · 16/01/2021 08:18

Windows/doors open and an extra layer of clothes will not cause people to get pneumonia.

Nice to know you can judge my need to use childcare though, thanks.

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firthy85 · 16/01/2021 08:19

to the poster asking what changed my mind. i think it was paying more attention to the footage on local news and in the hospitals that made me rethink some of my thoughts on this situation. although i still don't actually know anyone who has had it. unless my dad has gotten it because he has been sniffling a lot these past few months although don't think runny nose isa symptom

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firthy85 · 16/01/2021 08:23

um who judged your need? everyone is different of course. it was a general question about your feelings about it. blimey as much as i love this forum why do people read things into posts that are not there? that are not there?

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RooMama · 16/01/2021 08:27

In Scotland nursery settings are shut except for key worker children. I'm not one and neither is my partner though that doesn't mean we don't have jobs that are hugely important to us and the businesses we work for, requiring a lot of calls and quiet time for concentration that is made very difficult with young children around.

I'm furious that nursery settings are still open to all children in England, where the virus is more prevalent in many parts. It feels grossly unfair. But if I was sending dc in I'd probably be feeling quite guilty and concerned at this point so I'm in part happy that the decision has been taken out of my hands. It would certainly be harder to ask flexibility from work if it was my choice to keep child at home.

PolarnOPirate · 16/01/2021 08:30

You don’t catch pneumonia from being cold, just like you don’t catch a cold from being cold.

My son is still going to nursery for his 2 days. He absolutely loves it and he just swapped from another nursery a month ago so I don’t want him in and out all the time, too disruptive. It gives me 2 calmer days to homeschool older DS. They do a temp check at the door, no sand/playdoh type play. It’s a case of lesser of 2 evils. I want at least one of my kids to be able to play with friends and get out of the house. We don’t go anywhere else, so if he catches covid he would have got it from nursery, and not be able to spread it anywhere as he is either at home or nursery. Very low risk in itself anyway.

BorisandHarriet · 16/01/2021 08:32

Ha this is such an ignorant comment “catch covid or catch pneumonia”. I work in a nursery. We have our windows open. It’s still boiling in there and I am wearing just a t shirt most of the time because WE HAVE CENTRAL HEATING.

Anyway thanks for your post instilling such confidence that I am safe going to work each day. As you say you don’t have children, let alone nursery age children, don’t let it worry you too much.

I need to work because I need to be paid. Likewise the parents who send their kids to our death trap are the same, plus they are saving people’s lives / education etc as well as paying their bills.

J371172 · 16/01/2021 08:32

I teach in a nursery attached to a primary school. Of our 16 two year olds 9 are attending, of those 8 have at least one parent who doesn’t work. Of our 23 three and four year olds 10 are attending. All of those children have at least one parent who doesn’t work.

Whether those are parents who just aren’t that worried or whether they think their child’s need to be socialising /in a nursery routine is hard to say.
I would rather they kept their children at home, I’m in my late 40s and my dh is vulnerable. We have no chance of distancing from the children. Just have to get in with it like the rest of the people out at work.

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firthy85 · 16/01/2021 08:43

ok i am not a medical person fine. but why is it such an ignorant comment about pneumonia? isn't it caught by prolonged exposure to the cold whether its a cold room or being outside for too long?. absolutely nowhere in my op was i judging your decisions to let your kids to nursery if you have no choice that's fare enough it was your general feelings about having to which was what i was looking for and for people running them. its certainly a lesser of 2 evils especially knowing the fact we could be in for longer periods without anything changing.

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Jrobhatch29 · 16/01/2021 08:44

@firthy85

isn't that hypothermia....?

PotteringAlong · 16/01/2021 08:46

why is it such an ignorant comment about pneumonia? isn't it caught by prolonged exposure to the cold whether its a cold room or being outside for too long?

No, it isn’t.

Ohalrightthen · 16/01/2021 08:50

It's an ignorant comment about pneumonia because it's completely false! Do you also think you can catch a cold by going out with wet hair? Pneumonia is an infection. You can't get it by being cold.

I personally am completely comfortable with DD being in nursery. She loves it.

SingANewSongChickenTikka · 16/01/2021 08:56

My child is still going to nursery because we both still have to work, and homeschool an older child whilst trying to hang on to some sanity. I can completely see the arguments for them to close, and if that happens we will make it work. I’m very happy with the measures our nursery has in place, very small bubbles, a lot of outside play, ventilation, cleaning, masks etc. They’re doing an excellent job to make it as safe as possible for all involved and the benefits of my child being there a couple of days a week outweigh the risks for us as a family as things stand.
And no, I have no concerns about open windows giving her pneumonia...

BorisandHarriet · 16/01/2021 08:57

It’s ignorant because it’s not true. Also why would you want to make A) people who work in a nursery, or B) people who send their child(ren) to nursery, think they are going get either covid or pneumonia???

Yay now I’m even more excited about going to work next week. Except I know your statement is totally false so actually it makes no difference to me. But it might to others.

ForeverBubblegum · 16/01/2021 09:01

If I was leaving DD on a mountain side for the day then hypothermia (not pneumonia) might be a concern. For a heated room with a window open, I just put an extra jumper on her.

As for the covid risk, it is a worry, but it's the lesser of evils in our current situation. No one in our house is higher risk, so covid would most likely not cause long term harm. However DD's development was been harmed by not going. Her brother has ASD, and she had started copying his stimming behaviour and mannerisms because he it the only other child she sees. One day a week at nursery is the only time she sees neuro typical children, and she needs that opportunity to learn "normal" socialisation. Been a SEN sibling is going to be difficult enough for her, this is one sacrifices I'm not willing for her to make.

MummaBear4321 · 16/01/2021 09:02

I pulled my DD out if nursery as I am lucky enough to be on mat leave. If I had been working I would have had no choice but to keep her in. I am a teacher. I couldn't have possibly taught English lessons to year 11 online while having a 2 year old screaming to be read to every 2 minutes.

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