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Further Restrictions 'Stricter than March' Needed

835 replies

Bewareoftheblob · 09/01/2021 11:03

From the Telegraph today:

Sage advisers are calling for a lockdown tougher than the one seen in March as they argue the current restrictions do not go far enough.

Professor Susan Michie, a health psychology professor at University College London who sits on a Sage subcommittee, said more stringent action was needed.

While around 90 per cent of Britons are sticking to the rules there are also "more people out and about”, Prof Michie told the Today programme.

"It should definitely be tightened,” she said. "This is quite a lax lockdown because we’ve still got a lot of household contact, people go in and out of other’s houses. We should have stricter rather than a less strict lockdown than we had in March.

“You have this wide definition of critical workers and therefore you’ve got really busy public transport. There's also this new variant, and we have the winter season and the virus survives for longer in the cold.”

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Do you think they'll follow through with this? Reduce the amount of children in schools, ban support bubbles, heavier policing of people going about their daily lives?

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tinytemper66 · 10/01/2021 21:41

I look after a vulnerable adult who often relies on takeaways for hot meal when I can't get there to cook. He doesn't have a smart phone or the internet so can't get the food delivered. So please dont all demand for takeaways to be shut. It isn't all about calling to Costa for a latte.

ConfusedcomMum · 10/01/2021 21:47

Ask employers to strongly consider furloughing staff who are have school aged children. Give companies an incentive to find ways in which WFH can work (too many are being told to work in the office).

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/01/2021 21:55

@ConfusedcomMum

Ask employers to strongly consider furloughing staff who are have school aged children. Give companies an incentive to find ways in which WFH can work (too many are being told to work in the office).
What happens if the work is still there though, are those of without children supposed to pick it up? I'm at breaking point as it is, fuck taking on someone else's work because they've got kids and I haven't.
Waxonwaxoff0 · 10/01/2021 21:59

@ConfusedcomMum

Ask employers to strongly consider furloughing staff who are have school aged children. Give companies an incentive to find ways in which WFH can work (too many are being told to work in the office).
Furloughing staff with school age children doesn't solve the issue of work needing to be done. I am incredibly busy at work right now, if I'm furloughed then my colleagues will have to exhaust themselves with overtime doing my job as well as theirs. It's not always feasible.
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/01/2021 22:03

I'd walk if I was told I was taking on someone else's work just because I haven't got children. That wouldn't really help the situation but I couldn't and wouldn't do it.

BBCONEANDTWO · 10/01/2021 22:05

Surely there must be childminders available?

StrawberryTot · 10/01/2021 22:17

I definitely think schools have reduced numbers, we are both key workers and only 1 of our 2 children have a spot at school. They go the same school, year 7 and 10. The year 10 is at home alone.

Do I think rules should be more stringent, not a ducking chance. I didn’t see my dad for months up unto his dying days. He was completely alone bedridden, blind, deaf, no one, but I wasn’t allowed to see him until he was deemed ‘dying’.

My best friend is completely alone, everything about him has changed, he’s lonely, depressed, sad, not eating, doing nothing. He’s barely holding it together, but he has to choose between bubbling with his parents or a friend?

And the government bring out ads about protecting our grandparents and not infecting the elderly, fuck off with the guilt trip. I take my mother in law shopping because she asks, because she doesn’t want to be alone. I initially dropped her shopping off, but she wanted more, she wanted to do it herself but needed support, so I offered.

Would more stringent rules mean my one child doesn’t attend school? No thanks. Also I can’t take my mother in law shopping, my best friend would be alone and my dad would have died with no one.

I may get abuse for it but nope, it’s a no from us.

Sugar4Emma · 11/01/2021 01:09

Yes amazing as a mum I want more restrictions expecially for my kids. Restrictions teaches kids displine they don't learn at school anymore. To wear masks in public will be amazing. It is so nice to see other mums wearing fashionable masks. I do not mind curfews at all as we are always at home anyway.

Mamanyt · 11/01/2021 01:26

@Pastanred

Two girls meeting outside for coffee are not causing this
If it were two girls meeting for coffee, it would not be. But it is 20,000 girls meeting two by two that is doing no good whatsoever.
Tazers · 11/01/2021 01:55

Sorry it's the DM but only being allowed to leave the house once a week??? I'll have to dig out my skipping rope and just skip in the garden.

Hancock refuses to rule out tough new lockdown measures to halt Covid
mol.im/a/9131613

MercyBooth · 11/01/2021 02:33

poor Margaret aged 80 with a broken kettle cant buy online or get one from shops

She then scalds herself after boiling a pan of water on the hob. So has to go to hospital.

What a stupid shithole of a country we have become.

Celestine70 · 11/01/2021 04:23

My brother thinks the whole situation is out of control. He says people die it's part of life and we should all be able to choose to go about our business. He claims the death rate per month is no higher compared to other years. He is concerned about our rights to freedom.

Graciebobcat · 11/01/2021 04:50

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A CRITICAL WORKER TO GO OUT TO WORK IN ENGLAND. Several people have made this error on this thread. The guidance says one of the reasons you may leave home is to go to work if you can't work from home. You don't have to be doing "critical", "essential", or "key" work to be allowed to go to work. The only relevance with that definition is in terms of who may send their children to school.

CircusMistress · 11/01/2021 05:25

People aren't taking it anywhere near seriously enough at the moment, I don't agree the majority are so. Many have become complacent, or become more focused on rebelling against rules rather than respecting the reason for them. Employers attitudes, the behaviour in supermarkets, non essential shopping, my neighbours house calls, school attendance. So many seem to think they are bit special, they preach they are following the rules but when challenged come out with yes but... oh that doesn't count because I. They've all got a reason. The government have been slow and too light handed the whole way along. Boris is like the parent that made threats of discipline so many times without following through, the kids don't care anymore because at best they'll get a little telling off or a frowny face occasionally. Trouble is while people are free to do as they please, none of us are free of the consequences because this virus couldn't careless. Time to wake up people.

Pixxie7 · 11/01/2021 05:43

What about food delivery surely that’s important.

Kimbob33 · 11/01/2021 06:08

What makes me laugh more than anything is those that say

‘I was here, I was there, etc; and it was rammed with people. So what is any different from them being there, than you yourself?! Surely, you’re as guilty as those you complain about?!

Sirzy · 11/01/2021 06:13

@Kimbob33

What makes me laugh more than anything is those that say

‘I was here, I was there, etc; and it was rammed with people. So what is any different from them being there, than you yourself?! Surely, you’re as guilty as those you complain about?!

Which is the problem, too many people aren’t seeing the bigger picture and that just because something is allowed it may not be wise.

Just after Christmas we saw images of a packed Trafford centre (and others I am sure!) every individual was allowed to be there, but there wasn’t enough taking personal responsibility to say “actually this might not be a good idea” everyone’s trip was important and it was everyone else there at fault!

Kimbob33 · 11/01/2021 06:23

@Sirzy

I know, it’s crazy isn’t it. I think one sure fire thing Covid has done, is either create a nation of hypocrites or just highlight those who were always there. We’re all in this together, sadly and yes people’s circumstances are of course going to differ, but where’s all the kindness gone.

avenueq · 11/01/2021 06:46

How would they even control the once a week thing??

Fembot123 · 11/01/2021 06:50

@Sugar4Emma

Yes amazing as a mum I want more restrictions expecially for my kids. Restrictions teaches kids displine they don't learn at school anymore. To wear masks in public will be amazing. It is so nice to see other mums wearing fashionable masks. I do not mind curfews at all as we are always at home anyway.
Can’t this be taught at home! 🤦🏼‍♀️
Sirzy · 11/01/2021 06:51

@avenueq

How would they even control the once a week thing??
In France they have a system where you need to have a certificate (atterstation) to show why you are leaving the house after the curfew they have there. When they where in full lockdown you needed it to go out anywhere showing where and why.

I have heard that in Greece you have to text to register where your going and why.

If the government wanted to there are ways it can work, although I would imagine a lot of people would complain about it!

Melange99 · 11/01/2021 07:02

All the mixed messages have not helped. Original lockdown and then immediately BLM marches allowed, then Eat Out scheme, then lockdown, then Christmas including shopping, then lockdown. A pattern seems to be emerging - lockdown, then stop for a bit for the economy to get going, then lockdown etc. These next few months were always going to be the worse. Its's winter. Hancock tells us not to flex the rules, but they keep doing it themselves so most people no longer know what to do or believe.

southeastdweller · 11/01/2021 07:17

[quote Kimbob33]@Sirzy

I know, it’s crazy isn’t it. I think one sure fire thing Covid has done, is either create a nation of hypocrites or just highlight those who were always there. We’re all in this together, sadly and yes people’s circumstances are of course going to differ, but where’s all the kindness gone.[/quote]
We’re all in this together, my fat arse.

User158340 · 11/01/2021 07:22

@Kimbob33

What makes me laugh more than anything is those that say

‘I was here, I was there, etc; and it was rammed with people. So what is any different from them being there, than you yourself?! Surely, you’re as guilty as those you complain about?!

You shouldn't be anywhere that's busy at the moment. If it is busy turnaround and go home.
PicsInRed · 11/01/2021 07:25

[quote Tazers]Sorry it's the DM but only being allowed to leave the house once a week??? I'll have to dig out my skipping rope and just skip in the garden.

Hancock refuses to rule out tough new lockdown measures to halt Covid
mol.im/a/9131613[/quote]
The idea that we could only leave the house once a week.

I mean.

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