Why do my children not deserve an education?

[noitsachicken]

Just because we are not key workers?
My children don’t qualify for a school place, that means they won’t be educated in a classroom, by a teacher, with their peers, they won’t have time to socialise with their friends or play in a group.
They will be sat around the kitchen table, sharing a space with siblings of different ages, all with different needs, with a non-teacher parent trying to do the best they can.
Last lockdown school provision was ‘childcare’ the curriculum was suspended and there was no expectation. That is not the case this time, children who are not allowed in school are at a huge disadvantage.
I realise we are ‘lucky’ compared to others, we have access to technology and I can be home with the children, but I worry for my children, for their mental health and their education.
Why do they not deserve an education and others are prioritised for an education based on their parents job?
How long will those of us with children who are not allowed in school accept this?
I understand the reasons for closing schools, but children are not being treated fairly, if childcare is needed for those with critical jobs then it should be no more than that.

Those children are obviously much more likely to catch Covid and to take it home with them. They're not actually getting an education. Just sitting in the classroom. I wish they were getting an education to be honest - why do you want to make it as crap as possible for everyone, just to make it "fair"? If you don't work and can tutor your children in a small group, that will give them a big advantage over most other children in the UK. Get a grip. How is that fair compared with key worker children who are not being taught, and the children of parents who are working and don't have time to teach them? Maybe you should not be allowed to teach your children, cos it's not "fair"? What a nasty attitude.

Do you want it to be like last time when there was no provision for key workers kids? those who worked full time having to push their kids in the evenings or weekends or just give up on it totally.

I am more concerned in the disparity between schools and areas than with the disparity in what key workers children are receiving compared to classmates.

@Torvean32

The children getting an education are in school because their parents are key workers in the Covid fight. If you worked in that line your kids would be in school too.

If this were true then it would be fine. This is patently not the only reason parents are claiming keyworker status.

But children are being treated unfairly, all children should be treated the same.
Childcare should be provided for those who really need it

So you do want it to be unfair?

You make it sound like it’s just your kids who have been singled out. It isn’t.

Maybe if everyone stopped with the woah is me and what about my rights shit, if people started thinking more about all of us rather than themselves we would be in this mess.

Not saying you op but there are still people saying this thing isn’t real. Still prattling on about conspiracy theories. Meanwhile over 1300 people died yesterday. The total figure now stands at around 78,000. Did anyone see the end of Newsnight the other night that’s nearly the capacity of the 2012 stadium
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I’m sorry you feel it’s unfair against your children. None of this is fair.

My children are at school because I can't do my job with them at home. I would much much rather they were home with me.

Did anyone watch that chance unreported World programme about kids in Syria a little while ago? I think the bit that really struck me was the boys if 12, who'd lost both parents due to war and was overjoyed to be working for shit money, at a garage, so he could pay for his sister's medicine.

Every time I start to feel a bit 'my kids are missing out on so much', I think about him.

@Coldwinterahead1

My children are at school because I can't do my job with them at home. I would much much rather they were home with me.

What do you do?

Here was me relieved that next week is my week 'off' school rota so I can keep my kids safe at home and actually do their work with them. 🙄

So let's clap for key workers one minute, then complain their kids are getting to go to school. The OP is a sad indictment of britain today, but thankfully it seems like it's not a majority view.

Stupidest post I've seen here in a long time.’

Apart from the dozens of other whingers who’ve posted exactly the same thing over the past week

We have already had covid but that’s beside the point.

Why should teachers and their families, and those family members of children who are clinically vulnerable be put at increased risk of coronavirus just because your child “deserves” an education? Are you serious??

Keyworkers are keyworkers for a very good reason and must be allowed to continue working for the country to function as normally as possible without descending into complete anarchy. Yes some people may stretch the definition somewhat but the premise is simple.

My partner is a teacher and whilst he’s been recovering from covid this week he’s been online every single day from 10-4pm setting work, planning, and marking everything this kids send to him. He shouldn’t even be working but doesn’t want to leave his colleagues and kids in the lurch. So many of them have been off with the virus it’s unbelievable.

Posts like this make me ridiculously angry. You need a rapid reality check.

I wish my child was in school as much as the next parent but I'm using this opportunity to tailor his learning. It's hard work but I've done the first four days 🤣

It won't always be like this.

I have a family member who missed a year of school and socialisation at the same age due to illness and they turned out fine, made friends, did well at school and got a good career.

‘The keyworker definition is ridiculously wide so you can pretty much bullshit any job into one of the categories, it's very unfair to those few children who don't fit.’

Yeah send ‘em all in. Spread it even further.

And to the poster up thread whining about a unionised workplace. Well thank fuck for the unions. They stepped and where the government wouldn’t. They asked the government to state information stating how schools were safe. The government didn’t respond. Who’s in the right here? The terrible unions who have fought and fought for safe schools since March, so our children could be educated safely?Or the crap government?

Get fucking real.

Op how old are they?
Just focus on little and often.
Concentrate on the core stuff and don't try and aim for for hours and hours.

If the unions hadn't stepped in, imagine the sheer volume of mixing that would be going on right now!

@TK1930

The ones in school follow the same as those at home. Laptop, headphones & off you go! Often supervised by non qualified teachers as they are busy online

This

I'm considering leaving my job or reducing my hours (increased therm due to the demand) so I can home educate.
@noitsachicken do you want my job?

@noitsachicken
In our school children have been prioritised based on their parents jobs (as well as vulnerable children) those children are in school with their teachers and peers being taught as normal (with distancing etc)
They are NOT being taught as normal, which use hat several posters have already said to you, but you’re choosing to ignore. The guidance for schools is very clear, children with keyworker/vulnerable child places in school should not be at an advantage. Our lessons have to be the exact same ones the children do at hone and in school. Yes, the children in school are socialising. But they’re doing the exact same work!!

OMG your kids are in primary - they will recover and catch up. Its the kids further up Year 10 ,11,12 and 13 that are really being fabulously screwed around!!!

I think it’s the disparity with schools. Our school there appears to be no teaching, just resources. I work so can’t help or supervise. I gave up on ‘homeschooling’ last time.

However, there are people getting sick all around us and this is the price to get the country back on its feet. Teachers don’t have it easy. They had to respond to the first lockdown, then try to get the children to catch up in the autumn and now lockdown all over again.

I understand where you’re coming from.

My DS really struggled to settle back into school life last September after being off since March, the education he got from sept-dec suffered because he’d forgotten how to learn in a school environment, he’d lost his confidence in playing etc and struggled to integrate with his classmates. He was just about getting there in December now he’s off again.

I’m not a key worker and I’m furloughed and at risk of redundancy, DH is but our children are at home with me as that’s obviously the right thing to do. Some parents have taken advantage of the school and have sent their children in when there’s one SAHP and one key worker, several families that I’m aware of.

The school are trying their best but can’t please everyone. The children in school are being TAUGHT by their normal teachers with their normal TAs and yes the work they are doing is the same as we’re being set to do at home but I’m no substitute for a professional educator with experience, jst as much as you wouldn’t want a well intentioned person trying to treat you for cancer with no experience I would rather my children were taught by a professional than me muddling through.
The set up is exactly the same for the children in school, the day at school is the same for them and they are having the lessons delivered to them in the normal way.

My children aren’t getting the same education, they’re getting childcare from me. In some places it might be a case of the in school children are being plonked in front of screens to do the work set but it definitely isn’t the case here. As evidenced on the daily zoom where they get to see all their friends sat in class waving at them, at least 60% of the class in both children’s cases. It’s bittersweet as they like to see their friends but then also feel even more pushed out because they’re at hime.

There’s no good answer to this for anyone but I understand where you’re coming from OP

BE KIND!
Everyone just needs to try and be kind in this very stressful situation

Working parents want kids to go back to school because school closures directly impacts them.

Teachers don’t want schools to open because covid spreading round their school directly impacts them.

NHS staff want a full lockdown because sick covid patients directly impacts them.

Business owners want to carry on as normal because lockdown directly impacts them.

People with physical health problems want everyone to stay socially distant because catching covid could kill them.

People with mental health problems want people to spend time with because isolation could kill them.

Some can’t wait for a vaccine because they believe it will bring back some normality.

Some are terrified of a vaccine because they believe it could harm them.

We are all going through this but none of us are going through the same thing.
Some face crippling financial challenges, others face heart break.
We don’t all have to agree with what is best because what’s best for us won’t be best for everyone.
We don’t have to understand what others are going through.
But we do need to stick together and keep loving each other no matter our differences.
We need to be mindful when some things go the way we want it to, it could be terrible news to another person.
We need to be kind

OP, no sympathy! Pull yourself together! Most people are in the exact same situation as you. (Me included!). You don't need me to tell you why children of essential workers are being prioritised for school.

All of this a temporary measure - there is light at the end of the tunnel. I realise things look bleak and miserable right now. But we just get on with it. This WILL pass!