Why do my children not deserve an education?

[noitsachicken]

Just because we are not key workers?
My children don’t qualify for a school place, that means they won’t be educated in a classroom, by a teacher, with their peers, they won’t have time to socialise with their friends or play in a group.
They will be sat around the kitchen table, sharing a space with siblings of different ages, all with different needs, with a non-teacher parent trying to do the best they can.
Last lockdown school provision was ‘childcare’ the curriculum was suspended and there was no expectation. That is not the case this time, children who are not allowed in school are at a huge disadvantage.
I realise we are ‘lucky’ compared to others, we have access to technology and I can be home with the children, but I worry for my children, for their mental health and their education.
Why do they not deserve an education and others are prioritised for an education based on their parents job?
How long will those of us with children who are not allowed in school accept this?
I understand the reasons for closing schools, but children are not being treated fairly, if childcare is needed for those with critical jobs then it should be no more than that.

And by the way, my kids are all studying from home, despite the fact that 2 of them have EHCP's and therefore qualify for a place in school. However, we are on top of things at home so we aren't taking those spaces that other people might need more than us. And I'm a single mother.

Fair and reasonable treatment doesn't always mean that everyone is treated the same, as you say. It is sad for all children that it isn't possible to have their usual education at present. Many of the children of keyworker are having minimal interaction with others or teaching in schools. Others are more fortunate and have a stay at home parent to home school them for example. Most parents are in a really difficult position.

@noitsachicken

I am aware of the crisis. But children are being treated unfairly, all children should be treated the same. Childcare should be provided for those who really need it

I think it very sad that it it only now that people are crying out that children are being treated unfairly. All children should be treated the same because suddenly it affects them.

No one has spoken up about this before. I do not believe that people genuinely thought all children were being given an equal education up til Covid - but they didn't care til it started to affect their own precious darlings.

Here here @NovemberR

[quote CakeQueen87]@saraclara
Surely there is a third option whereby schools remain open to a very selective amount of absolutely critical workers as they did in the last lockdown. The amount of children we have in school at the moment is not going to stop the spread of the virus. Something needs to be done [/quote]
Except that isn't what the OP is after. She wants every child to be treated the same.

What you mention is what I think should be done, though. I think it's entirely wrong that some children have been given places even though there's a SAHP at home, for instance.

Your kids are safer from Covid
That means you are safer too
And less likely to have to self isolate and have your work and life further disrupted and are reducing your risks of being seriously ill.

Is it 'unfair' that you have those advantages? That children of key workers are more exposed to Covid than your family? Or is the unfairness only in one direction?

Schools are offering the same curriculum to all children.
Those in school may very well just have the TA supervising them or be in mixed age groups doing different work independently. Yes they will get to 'socialise' at the expense of higher Covid risk.

Meanwhile London hospitals are close to being overwhelmed, cancer surgery is cancelled and hospitals are over run with COVID patients.

I think your kids can suck up a few weeks around a kitchen table with their siblings and their mum.
It sounds rather lovely to me.

It certainly sounds a lot nicer then my day on my Covid ward sweating away in full PPE trying our best with the very little that can realistically be done and talking to family after family about the likelihood of their loved ones dying.

@CovoidOfAllHumanity

Your kids are safer from Covid That means you are safer too And less likely to have to self isolate and have your work and life further disrupted and are reducing your risks of being seriously ill.

Is it 'unfair' that you have those advantages? That children of key workers are more exposed to Covid than your family? Or is the unfairness only in one direction?

Schools are offering the same curriculum to all children.
Those in school may very well just have the TA supervising them or be in mixed age groups doing different work independently. Yes they will get to 'socialise' at the expense of higher Covid risk.

Meanwhile London hospitals are close to being overwhelmed, cancer surgery is cancelled and hospitals are over run with COVID patients.

I think your kids can suck up a few weeks around a kitchen table with their siblings and their mum.
It sounds rather lovely to me.

It certainly sounds a lot nicer then my day on my Covid ward sweating away in full PPE trying our best with the very little that can realistically be done and talking to family after family about the likelihood of their loved ones dying.

👏

I’m past caring
My kids are safe with me
I’m safe at home
That’s the most important thing

Anyone with kids at school are at major risk , risk from their work and from the kids

Why can’t you see that ?

It certainly sounds a lot nicer then my day on my Covid ward sweating away in full PPE trying our best with the very little that can realistically be done and talking to family after family about the likelihood of their loved ones dying

Why can’t people see this ?
My friend has Covid and badly
She has two kids
Her husband is even sicker
They been critically ill for over 2 weeks
At home

And they caught it because husband was a key worker , whilst everyone sat on their tier 4 arse over Xmas he
Worked

People have no perspective
It infuriates me

Titles a bit dramatic op

All the teaching staff here saying 'I'd love to be at home to give my DC that one on one education'... yeah, you have the education, qualifications and experience to feel confident doing that right?

OP many people who aren't sahp have an unrealistically rosy idea of the reality. Even more so during lockdown when you're supporting everyone else, barely get out, never get a moment to yourself, no support from leadership or colleagues, are often judged from all sides as lucky/lazy/lady of leisure/ unambitious/whatever and that pressure from school so they can keep ticking their boxes on the 'remote learning' targets keeps coming in. And your kids just want to be in the classroom with friends, anxious and hard to motivate. Then there's the worry as to how they'll manage to settle back in a classroom with peers with another lengthy period off.

I say keep speaking up, I'm going to. I have experience of severe anxiety, agoraphobia and eating disorders in my family. No bloody way are my previously happy kids suffering those problems if I can help it.

Critical workers should only be sending their children to school if they can't keep them at home. I'm a teacher and my children are at home because my husband is working from home at the moment and actually I can mostly work from home too.

At my school kw/v children school isn't lessons but children in computer rooms supervised by TAs but with a PE lesson, not sure how often.

My son's primary have a teacher who does a whole class live session a couple times a day and the work is the same in and out of school, some days my son gets more support from us than he would in school in a class of 30.

The social thing is tough, but if ITUs become full we're all at risk, it's an awful situation and we all need to think beyond our immediate family and do what's best for the country at this point (in my opinion). The more we're able to lockdown the quicker we'll be able to fully open schools. Infection rates in schools are ridiculous at the moment.

I’d rather be at home with my DC than at school and I’m not a teacher, they are at home delivering the lessons online.

I don't want to be rude OP, but how about taking a keyworker job, then you would be able to send your kids to school?

Thank think they OP has hidden their own thread as they have realised how utterly selfish they are.

@noitsachicken

I am aware of the crisis. But children are being treated unfairly, all children should be treated the same. Childcare should be provided for those who really need it

You don't really need it. You're at home.

*i not ‘thank’ - not sure what happened there!

Same at both of my children's schools. Teachers are diunh everything they can to support every child in what is a very difficult situation

How I wish I hadn't spent 14hrs yesterday running around a busy hospital putting CPAP and Optiflow on patients on wards, transferring 3 patients into ITU, one of whom cried just before we intubated him and one of whom has a 9 yr old at home.

I would much rather have been at home teaching my 6 yr old how to tell the time.

I am so grateful to our incredibly supportive school for trying to host in school and remote learning at the same time.

My daughter is working through worksheets , files from her primary school on her own. . I'm in another room live teaching my secondary pupils. It is what it is. We are all trying our best in different ways.

@Redinthefacegirl

How I wish I hadn't spent 14hrs yesterday running around a busy hospital putting CPAP and Optiflow on patients on wards, transferring 3 patients into ITU, one of whom cried just before we intubated him and one of whom has a 9 yr old at home.

I would much rather have been at home teaching my 6 yr old how to tell the time.

I am so grateful to our incredibly supportive school for trying to host in school and remote learning at the same time.

Thank you for what you do, try and ignore the noise even though I know it’s hard.

@Redinthefacegirl

How I wish I hadn't spent 14hrs yesterday running around a busy hospital putting CPAP and Optiflow on patients on wards, transferring 3 patients into ITU, one of whom cried just before we intubated him and one of whom has a 9 yr old at home.

I would much rather have been at home teaching my 6 yr old how to tell the time.

I am so grateful to our incredibly supportive school for trying to host in school and remote learning at the same time.

@Redinthefacegirl I’m a full time teacher of a 9 and 6 year old. They’re being taught b TAs so I can either be at home or in school teaching live lessons to secondary pupils. I know our children will ‘catch up’. What’s important at the moment is health and protesting the NHS. I hope it doesn’t seem contrite but thank you.

*protecting - so many typos!

Thank you Fembot123.

I feel guilty sending him in and the resentment about keyworker provision is getting to me a bit.

It really really does wind me up
(And I am wound up already)
When people chunter on about how their kids aren't getting a perfect education and being socialised when the NHS really is overun and people really are dying left, right and centre and cancer surgery really is cancelled. We are not lying about this. I am living this. This week is without a doubt the worst of my 15 year career and what's even worse than that is that I think next week might top it. So far we are not refusing to admit or failing to treat people or rationing inappropriately but my utter dread is that it will come to that. And cases keep on rising....

Schools need to be shut to prevent more community transmission. They were driving a lot lot more transmission than gyms or shops or anything else.

Yes it is shit.
No one is arguing kids don't need school or that online is anything less than second best
But we need to do this now as a country

The title of the post and the OP's posts are so far beyond selfish and blinkered. They just typify the worst kind of Thatcherite every man for himself bullshit.
I think I am living on a different planet to OP or something. I wish I had so little to be concerned about.

Haven't even taken up our keyworker place as DH can wfh.
The quality of DS education is really the furthest thing from my mind right now.