School only providing 1 hour of live interaction a day!

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What is everyone's school experience? I am going a little crazy. We have live online learning of 2 increments of 30mns (maths & english) a day + homework that we have to supervise.

What is everybody else's experience?
The school is relying entirely on us to do the work.

@noblegiraffe, I appreciate that but it does mean 4 hours of something. Not 30 mins of chatting to Year 10 online and 1 20 mins work sheet covering no new learning. How is that meeting minimum standards?

it is really hard to comment without knowing the age of your kids.

For me, reception to year 2, 30 mins maths and 30 mins English is fine.

I have secondary aged kids who are getting all their lessons online live.

Oh I shoudl say I would expect follow up work and activities after the 30 minutes lesson

My dd1 is in year 10. Today is her first Microsoft team lesson and only 5 students have logged on.

Some schools have 60% plus kids in

Live teaching with kids in the classroom too is literally the equivalent of a cafe worker making coffees for 14 people simultaneously (mixture of lattes, soya, almond, syrup) whilst taking orders for 16 other coffees over the phone at the same time

Add to that the coffee shop manager is watching you on your first try and making notes that she will criticse you with later when you're shattered

"The evidence isn’t there that live teaching is superior to asynchronous teaching using pre-recorded, especially given that a lot of pupils will not be able to access live teaching according to the timetable but can access recorded lessons at their own convenience."

I do totally agree with this. How good the teaching will be determined by content as well. Like the example of Khan Academy, pre recorded video teaching can be so effective.

@Cherry889

My dd1 is in year 10. Today is her first Microsoft team lesson and only 5 students have logged on.

I am amazed at this.

dd1 and dd2 are at same secondary.
They were told clearly that they had to be online at set times, and the teachers take a register. No child, parent gets called and asked where they are.

ds in sixth form, must be present in live lessons, but only about half are live. I am kicking him out of bed each morning. (But i am only allowed to do that when he has a lesson, so yesterday first lesson was 11 am)

@noblegiraffe I am not asking for lessons to be live; we're not getting any lessons (live or recorded) directly from our school. It is not the same for a child to see their regular teacher compared with a random stranger explaining something on the internet; especially younger children have none or very little incentive to engage with / try to impress someone whom they don't know and will never have a personal relationship with.

Secondary school here.

Timetabled lessons on google classroom- no live teaching.

9:20-9:45: form class- DC can sign in at any time during this period.

10:00-10:30: class

10:45-11:15: class

11:45-12:15: class

12:30- 1:00: class

2:00- 2:30: class

So 2.5 hours of “lessons.”

Some of the teachers are uploading the work the day before or in the morning so DC can do it and submit it before the scheduled class.

Some teachers are uploading the work a couple of hours after the class so DC spend the half hour looking at the screen waiting for work to appear.

Some teachers ask them to confirm they’re present, others don’t.

It’s not anywhere near good enough.

My yr6 ds has half hr zoom at 9.30 for English then a task for half an hour on his own. Same at 11am for English. Then they are set afternoon tasks which is followed up with a half hour zoom at 2.30 to close the day. Seems to work well. He was given the task sheets in a pack to last 2 weeks before he broke up for Xmas. The teacher has her class doing the same work who are actually in school, so all do the same and all can see each other.

I’ve tried to engage DC with other learning I’ve sourced, or just doing things myself but his rigid brain (SEN) doesn’t understand why he has to do extra school if he has already done it online like all his classmates.

[quote ichundich]**@noblegiraffe* I am not asking for lessons to be live; we're not getting any lessons (live or* recorded) directly from our school. It is not the same for a child to see their regular teacher compared with a random stranger explaining something on the internet; especially younger children have none or very little incentive to engage with / try to impress someone whom they don't know and will never have a personal relationship with.[/quote]
It does help to have this connection even if not live

I teach year 4.

10-15 mins of welcome time and running through the work then open drop in sessions until 11:00.

Time for planning, seesaw, other school related work then back online by 2:00 until 3:15 for more drop in. I'm live teaching the children who drop in -no pressure, parents/children's choice to be there.

We also have video lessons and slides running for those that need them.

It’s is not the same for a child to see their regular teacher compared with a random stranger explaining something on the internet

So basically you’re saying that Oak Academy content which has had millions of pounds and resources put into it isn’t good enough and you want your child’s class teacher to try to reproduce it (and presumably every class teacher across the country) without millions of pounds and from their own kitchen (or while supervising keyworker children) just to satisfy you?

No live interaction here, Year 4 and year 6. They have work set on classrooms that they photograph and submit each day. Improvement from last time as nothing was submitted and my youngest ds decided it wasn’t worth bothering then. Problem with live teaching is you need a computer/device for each child and a good internet connection.

No live on line learning - wouldn't want that tbh. Pre recorded lessons. Form Tutor available on Google meet for half an hour each morning so they can speak to her if they want to. Teachers email back promptly.

I am just really hoping things improve next week. I am worried work set on BTEC Sport coursework won't count unless teacher sees them do it so can verify child's own work. My child has new teacher started yesterday, only started Year 10 course then as school said too many issues to start in September. How on earth will teacher be able to verify own work if she is not familiar with child or their Sport ability?

This just goes to show whatever schools provide, they are wrong.

Too much 'live' stuff. Not enough 'live' stuff.
Too much dependence on other providers video lesons. Not enough video lessons
Too much work. Not enough work.
Too much dependence on parents. Parents wanting more input.
Too fixed a schedule. Schedule not fixed enough.

They will never please everybody.

We get a mix of prerecorded stuff. It's included their teachers, YouTube videos they use in class (times table songs), Oak, bitesize, and White Rose. We've had PowerPoint. Teachers online for queries 8.30-4.30... so longer than school day. Any work submitted commented on within minutes. Work is supposed to be submitted by the end of the next day, but not every bit of you don't need to (they send out maths answers at lunchtime, so I mark that myself, rather than bothering with th the upload. )
It's not everything they would do at school. I'm happy with it. I'm supplementing it (reading, handwriting, maths practice, other 'fun' lessons). Its clear that some of you would be phoning Ofsted right now at my DDs provision.
But the school is also delivering food parcels, SIM cards, devices etc so that every family has some internet connection and something to access it on. Puts things in perspective...

Neither my Year 1 child or secondary child are getting any live teaching. My eldest has sen so I basically have to supervise/teach both of them. Im pleased they are getting proper work to do this time around but I'm finding it really hard to actually get any of my own stuff done

Schools don't have to provide live leaning

@ProfessorPootle

No live interaction here, Year 4 and year 6. They have work set on classrooms that they photograph and submit each day. Improvement from last time as nothing was submitted and my youngest ds decided it wasn’t worth bothering then. Problem with live teaching is you need a computer/device for each child and a good internet connection.

yes this is such a big issue.

3 secondary all getting live lessons, brilliant on the one hand, but requires 3 laptops on the other. Fortunately we have them as dh fixes old laptops, but many don't. (bearing in mind dh and I are working from home on our laptops too)

Year 4 child had 5 x 1hour live lessons every day and a form live meet

Year 2 has a live daily story and meet but only worksheets other than that.

There’s a big difference

y7 (grammar) has full timetable of live lessons. The school already used ipads before 2020 for homework, access to resources etc, and made sure that the new y7's had their devices asap (normally they would only introduce at the end of y7). What this means in practice is that say for a 40m lesson, they have 20m of the teacher live teaching, and then 20m working by themselves on what they've just been taught. Seems to be working very well, all children logging on for each lesson and teachers 'pick' on each child to make sure they are paying attention.

y4 has 30m live time with form teacher and online class as a whole, then 3x tasks set per day via links / worksheets / etc. Twice a week live story time, once a week live assembly with Head. It's not ideal, but appropriate for her age (she couldn't do a whole live day like my y7), and as 50% of the school have decided that they are key workers*, it's the best that the teachers can do.

(no disrespect to key workers. 1st lockdown 5% of the school were in, then a further 10% came back in in June 2020 as KW children. An awful lot of people must have changed jobs since then....)

Year 5 child has 3 x 40 minute Zoom lessons a day. The teacher sets work that they are supposed to do independently between lessons.

Year 10 child is having their full timetable on Zoom including registration.

I am disappointed with my dds secondary school as this week dd1 in yr 10 is having only 2 online Microsoft teams lesson and dd2 in yr9 is having 1.

Whereas my brother is a primary teacher and he is providing 15 recorded lessons each week and 2 zoom lessons for his yr1 class.