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School only providing 1 hour of live interaction a day!

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NotLookingTooGood · 07/01/2021 10:25

What is everyone's school experience? I am going a little crazy. We have live online learning of 2 increments of 30mns (maths & english) a day + homework that we have to supervise.

What is everybody else's experience?
The school is relying entirely on us to do the work.

OP posts:
lavenderlou · 08/01/2021 12:21

@ichundich

I would estimate that the complaints of 'too much work' are far outweighed by those who feel their children are not being taught by the school at all or only for a fraction of the time. The new lockdown came as a surprise for the majority of the population and so we're all having to juggle tasks we would normally not have to do.
On what basis do you estimate this? Because it is your own personal experience?
Haggertyjane · 08/01/2021 12:24

@noblegiraffe

People generally frown upon hours of screen time for little ones.

They tend to move around a lot and be hands on and active in classrooms too, not staring at the teacher

You're talking nonsense. This thread is a complaint about the lack of interactive schoolwork for children.

My child is getting this and your point is? He is interacting with his teacher and with his schoolfriends. He is chatting about Christmas to his teacher. He is doing schoolwork. I don't need to sit with him and struggle. He has a lunch and a play break. He is getting the best of a bad situation.

He is not having 'screen time' as in watching wall to wall Ryan and Disney films. He is being taught in a 21st century way as there is no other option.

Haggertyjane · 08/01/2021 12:26

In fact its bloody brilliant. DS (7) was doing times tables and then multiplying the answer by 10 and struggled, so I was able to reinforce what the teacher was saying after the lessons finished. Something I wouldn't normally have known to do. I made a game of it and he learnt something from home too

DorisDaisyMay · 08/01/2021 12:34

My Facebook feed is full of ‘teachers are working harder than ever’ but that is not my experience of my children’s school.

Their response the first time and now this time is pathetic. Today we had to go to the school to collect some workbooks and hanging around to hand them out were the Head, the deputy Head and another member of staff. If they were interacting or connecting with the children or something I would have been okay with it. Instead the Head handed some books at arms length to my children like they had the plague. No eye contact with me, no hello.

So for three members of staff to stand there for one hour cost the tax payer about £90.

Multiply that by a few hours and a few schools and it is an incredible waste.

Thank the Lord for Oak National Academy which really does showcase the best of teaching in Britain.

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2021 12:45

You're talking nonsense.

Good to see people redefining screen time to suit.

Plenty of adults complaining about the toll of being in zoom meetings all day. Getting backache, headaches and so on from poor posture and screen fatigue.

Jangle33 · 08/01/2021 12:53

Have the DfE mandated a certain number of live hours per week? I don’t think our school is doing enough but I’d like to point to official guidance, escalating to Ofsted would be ridiculous

notevenat20 · 08/01/2021 12:54

In reality our experience is that I am home schooling with some assistance from the school. If you think of it as assisted home schooling it's less annoying. I am sure this the same for most DC in primary at least.

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2021 13:04

Have the DfE mandated a certain number of live hours per week?

Zero. Schools don't have to provide any live hours.

MrsHamlet · 08/01/2021 13:05

@Jangle33

Have the DfE mandated a certain number of live hours per week? I don’t think our school is doing enough but I’d like to point to official guidance, escalating to Ofsted would be ridiculous
Live hours a week? No. Hours of work? Yes. 4 (?) for primary per day; 5 for secondary
Jangle33 · 08/01/2021 13:09

Ok thank you. Well I am massively have to supplement the school work here (infants).

MarshaBradyo · 08/01/2021 13:11

@Jangle33

Ok thank you. Well I am massively have to supplement the school work here (infants).
Jangle it doesn’t have to be live but it does have to be more than last time (eg worksheets). There’s guidance that outlines what you can expect.
ichundich · 08/01/2021 13:14

@Jangle33 The guidance states 3-5h of teaching per day, depending on the afe of the child.

ichundich · 08/01/2021 13:15

*age

Sup1979 · 08/01/2021 13:15

2-3 hours a day.
Full schedule
Teachers available and highly responsive to messages throughout the school day

Hugely impressed

Yesterday I managed to grocery shop, change the beds, and do some yoga.

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2021 13:21

Well I am massively have to supplement the school work here (infants).

Have you seen the BBC bitesize www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/primary and Oak Academy classroom.thenational.academy/schedule-by-year offerings?

coronafiona · 08/01/2021 13:22

10m registration y3. Some prerecorded work and worksheets submitted on a version of teams which is an absolute shit show.

Hollyhead · 08/01/2021 13:23

I personally think that for primary, the government, having invested so heavily in Oak academy should have made that along with worksheets the 'mandatory national scheme of emergency learning'. Schools could have printed and distributed the worksheets to those who needed them. Teachers and TAs could then be freed up to supervise key worker children in school and maintain appropriate contact with children at home.

Hollyhead · 08/01/2021 13:25

I think some people over estimate how much actual work happens in a school day. In reality after all the coats on coats off, assembly, toilet, breaks, lunch, 'sit down', 'be quiet', stop talking' there is probably only 2-3 hours of what most adults would consider to be 'meaningful learning' each day, and when you do it 1:1 it's even more efficient - For year 3 and below I'd expect to be able to do the equivalet of a whole day in 1.5 hours, for Years 4-6 probably 2-3 hours.

Hollyhead · 08/01/2021 13:27

Also 1:1 much more efficient because you know your child's level, particularly for children who are more up to speed they will spend some of each lesson listening to things they're already secure on, and at the other end of the spectrum some children will only understand a small part of the lesson and may have to take on content they're not really up to yet.

OverTheRainbowLiesOz · 08/01/2021 13:31

BustopherPonsonbyJones - Your post is great. I completely agree.

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2021 13:32

Yeah, Gavin saying that a Y3 should be set 4 hours of work is bonkers.

GintyMcGinty · 08/01/2021 13:32

Zero live or recorded for us.

Just worksheets and weblinks emailed each morning.

Exactly the bloody same as last time.

I am so pissed off and disappointed.

MarshaBradyo · 08/01/2021 13:32

@Hollyhead

I personally think that for primary, the government, having invested so heavily in Oak academy should have made that along with worksheets the 'mandatory national scheme of emergency learning'. Schools could have printed and distributed the worksheets to those who needed them. Teachers and TAs could then be freed up to supervise key worker children in school and maintain appropriate contact with children at home.
Do you mean last time or this?

If this I disagree that effort should be diverted away from children at home to KW in class.

GintyMcGinty · 08/01/2021 13:35

Also to note that the guaranteed live teaching time is England only.

Scotland has no national framework for home learning or guarantees. Its up to each school to decide. And ours is shit.

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