3-5 Teaching Hours for remote learning?

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I heard Gavin Williamson say this is the Commons today.
Anyone know what that means in practice? Is there any guidance yet?

Three hours is plenty for Primary and then between 3-5 hours for secondary. I home schooled for primary and I agree 3 hrs is plenty. Mine would have thought I'd gone mad if we'd done that much. They went into grammar school and had no problem keeping up so an hour or two a day seemed to work.

I think the thing that would be different is flexibility. If they are doing live lessons on line you presumably can't choose when to do it but with home schooling sometimes one of mine would get out of bed to go through something they'd done before that was just at the "clicking " stage and half an hour at 11pm sometimes would be more productive than two hours when they weren't in the right space.

I'm not happy to have months of worksheets and BBC bitesize when others are getting education from the teacher as usual.

It's been 2.5 days. I think you sound unreasonable.

@inquietant

I'm not happy to have months of worksheets and BBC bitesize when others are getting education from the teacher as usual.

It's been 2.5 days. I think you sound unreasonable.

You can download the curriculum for each KS and plan your own lessons around that. I don't think there will be consistency in teaching as schools vary ito resources.

I think' people forget that primary kids are in school for about 6.5 hours.

In that time you have registration, assembly, lunch, playtimes, faffing time.

5 hours is probably pushing how much they get at school. Probably more like 4 proper interactive teaching time.

So 3-5 hours seems about right to me.

This thread has made the Daily Fail 🤦🏻‍♀️

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9122503/School-blasts-parents-falsely-claiming-key-worker-status-child-place-class.html

Quotes at the end

I’ve worked my arse off this week.
Live lesson - first 15-35 minutes of the lesson depending on year group.
Continual answering of questions through use of comment function and marking/ feeding back on work.
Break and lunch spent planning for tomorrow and filming videos for those who don’t turn up to lesson.
Fuck me, I’m knackered.

I'm live teaching my whole 22 hour time table. In my school every student is getting their full quota of lessons. These lessons are judged by the school's framework, marked and are observed by senior leaders.

One of the really awful things about the schools situation this week is that it is putting school and parents against each other. (Most) Schools and teachers are doing their absolute best and working really hard to meet the needs of people who think there is too much work set, not enough work set, want live lessons, don't want live lessons etc. There is a hell of a lot being expected of parents with children at home, key worker parents with children at school, school staff and pupils. What my younger child's school is asking of them/ us is not achievable with two working parents. And there is no support they can offer us that can change that. But I don't expect them to, and I do know they are only asking this of us because the DoE says they have to. I want to shout this from the rooftops and I don't know why more people aren't. But it isn't the fault of individual schools.

@AdultHumanFemale

Primary teacher here. I think the guidance sets parents, teachers and children up to fail. Parts of the guidance, which is well-meaningly open to interpretation, is being disingenuously skewed by parents who are feeling upset about the limitations of online learning. Upthread, pps are discussing their DC's online provision in terms of "an offer", with which they are not impressed. I could weep. Day 1 of lockdown proper, and we are not fucking pleased with our "offer". OK... PPs feeling disappointed that schools are not "better prepared". Most schools have prepared by setting up platforms and buying subscriptions for apps and distributing log in details since the autumn. That's preparation. The fact that those platforms are in some cases not yet populated with activities is because until Monday night, teachers were told categorically that schools would be safe, and to plan accordingly. Preparing relevant, engaging, meaningful provision takes ages, frequently as long, if not longer, than it takes to deliver. Provision for class based learning is totally different, best practise allows for differentiation through learning styles, and very importantly for primary aged children right up to Y6, is tactile resources and interactivity. This can not be replicated in online teaching via Zoom. My gripe is that I and thousands of colleagues will have spent a week of the hols preparing and resourcing gold standard practical lessons for our classes, and we are now required to turn on a penny and try to turn our class based lesson preparations into remote learning. This stuff takes time, lots of it. A PP said that if she got wind that the children at school were somehow benefiting from more teacher interaction and resources, she'd complain. Why? So many children in school are there on a vulnerable or SEND ticket. They need all the extra everything they can get! And it will be amazing if it benefits them. And whoever poo-pooed the 'welfare call', that made me so sad. I've spent nearly 4 hours today, ringing parents to connect after the holiday, check that they have access to sufficient tech, see if they need any practical support, talk through how to set up accounts if they have been having trouble etc. I've been trying to help. I know it's late, it's been a long day (first email at 6:32am), and only just getting into bed, but some of the comments here makes me wonder why I bother.

I am sure your class appreciate you. There aren’t enough hours in the day to plan and deliver 3/4 hours online provision, then mark, comment and plan again. It’s not possible. Do what you can within your working hours and don’t beat yourself up. Everyone understands.