75% of my school are in

[ReginaPhalangee]

That's it in a nutshell. Three quarters of my school are classed as keyworker or vulnerable. Might as well chuck the other 50 in and be done with it.

Lockdown 1... 12 children.

No PPE and we've got to double our workload for the ones needing remote learning whilst we are teaching our classes. And then making phone calls to check on them.

It's the same for every school in my area.

@TheKeatingFive

Seriously? An accountant is not a critical worker!

Yes they are, they’re on the list.

And we certainly can’t afford for accountants to stop working for months on end to homeschool their children. How would companies get audited? How would tax be processed, and so on?

Oh I dunno, they could do what everyone else is doing and WFH whilst doing child care. Plenty of people managed it for 4 months last year.

I think some people think key workers automatically means "unable to WFH whilst kids are home." You aren't exempt from childcare if you can WFH

Oh I dunno, they could do what everyone else is doing and WFH whilst doing child care. Plenty of people managed it for 4 months last year

and yet everyone would complain if their accounts got fucked up / were late because they're trying to do two FT jobs at once, wouldn't they?

this rhetoric of "oh you can work from home and look after your kids simultaneously" is utter bollocks. Its awful for everyone involved.

oh and in our school, they 100% are being taught, no probably not the same as on a normal day, but likely more and better than what i could do working full time.

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

I think some people think key workers automatically means "unable to WFH whilst kids are home." You aren't exempt from childcare if you can WFH

No but could lose your job I have spent 10 months doing all I can and I am on the verge of either having a breakdown or losing my job which in turn I lose my house my husband is a critical worker my son is in school

This sounds awful for the teachers. The whole point was that schools weren't safe. How is this any better?

I suppose it is just that people can't work or can't work as efficiently as they need to while also doing childcare.

FWIW, my dd is off. She is Y1 and I worked out that approx 7% of her year group are in school. The rest are joining in online. It is a RC school in a very affluent area. Wonder if that demographics has more WFH workers and SAHPs.

Businesses won’t/can’t just let people WFH. They won’t/can’t let their employees just work around their kids.
Many did that for months and months last year, but it’s not happening any longer.

This is ridiculous. Businesses need to suck it up just like parents do. Companies taking the piss and pressuring staff to do so should be named and shamed.

@Butterymuffin

Businesses won’t/can’t just let people WFH. They won’t/can’t let their employees just work around their kids. Many did that for months and months last year, but it’s not happening any longer.

This is ridiculous. Businesses need to suck it up just like parents do. Companies taking the piss and pressuring staff to do so should be named and shamed.

Oh do behave, not everyone can wfh

Companies taking the piss and pressuring staff to do so should be named and shamed.

But they’re trying to stay afloat in very difficult circumstances and avoiding having to make redundancies.

They aren’t charities.

I suppose it is just that people can't work or can't work as efficiently as they need to while also doing childcare.

This shouldn’t be an enormous surprise. It’s bleeding obvious.

@Butterymuffin

Businesses won’t/can’t just let people WFH. They won’t/can’t let their employees just work around their kids. Many did that for months and months last year, but it’s not happening any longer.

This is ridiculous. Businesses need to suck it up just like parents do. Companies taking the piss and pressuring staff to do so should be named and shamed.

You need to set out specific plans for ensuring that the businesses in question do not collapse and leave people without jobs to go back to rather than saying they "need to suck it up", then.

I’m glad at lot of kids are still in school. Whilst garden centres and dry cleaners are permitted to be open and schools have to shut, someone got their priorities seriously fucked up.

We have to be careful we don't create a "furlough" generation who literally want to be paid to do f all

Plenty of people managed it for 4 months last year

In very different circumstances

With a lenient approach from employers (who saw it as a temporary emergency, not a new normal)

At great cost to their family’s needs.

Then is not now. I’m not sure why you’d expect it to be.

@pollylocketpickedapocket

I’m glad at lot of kids are still in school. Whilst garden centres and dry cleaners are permitted to be open and schools have to shut, someone got their priorities seriously fucked up.

Yes, who needs dry cleaners in times like these?

We have to be careful we don't create a "furlough" generation who literally want to be paid to do f all

No one I know wants that. They want provision for their children so they can do their jobs properly and support their families.

@TheKeatingFive

I suppose it is just that people can't work or can't work as efficiently as they need to while also doing childcare.

This shouldn’t be an enormous surprise. It’s bleeding obvious.

Yes, it is obvious. Sorry for stating the erm...obvious .

The issue is, what to do about it. It isn't safe for teachers to have that many kids in their care at the moment. Nobody wants a "furlough culture". People will lose their jobs if they can't do them properly while caring for dcs. For some people, losing one salary would be manageable, but still undesirable. For others it will literally make the difference between having a home or being homeless.

There aren't any easy decisions.

Plenty of people managed it for 4 months last year

Yes and were completely on their knees by the end of it. Businesses are also struggling to survive.

Parents know the quality of education in those 4 months they were able to deliver wasn't great the need better this time.

Another option, I know the wealthier families in our school, where both parents are working in high power jobs, (and therefore have the salaries and stress levels to match), is they are sending children to local childminders or hiring nannies. If one parent is a keyworker, some childminders will take children, while schools will not. I know a doctor whose DH is something else keyworkery, and they choose not to send dcs to school and childcare at the minute, but they have a nanny. It costs ££££. I know we could never afford to do this, but the higher earners can and are doing this.

I am a teacher, I am not going on site as I cited section 44 unsafe working practice. Anyone can do this in any job. I am a key worker. My children are not going to school because it is not safe. I am working from home, supporting 20 families with welfare calls daily, writing specialist reports for 6 pupils and attending meetings. I am also home schooling my own children- well supporting the amazing provision from their schools. I am, from tomorrow providing home learning for my class.
Whether you are allowed to send in your child or not, don't, it isn't safe. When it is safe we can all go back to school.

@somethingischasingme

I am a teacher, I am not going on site as I cited section 44 unsafe working practice. Anyone can do this in any job. I am a key worker. My children are not going to school because it is not safe. I am working from home, supporting 20 families with welfare calls daily, writing specialist reports for 6 pupils and attending meetings. I am also home schooling my own children- well supporting the amazing provision from their schools. I am, from tomorrow providing home learning for my class. Whether you are allowed to send in your child or not, don't, it isn't safe. When it is safe we can all go back to school.

Yes ok, all doctors and nurses please walk off the job and keep your kids at home, or maybe leave them home alone - that's ok right?

sonethingischasingme has said it's ok as it's not safe, ok then

It's not unsafe for young children, and if we really do all take our kids out, you can watch your death toll spiral

@Fortyfifty I think they will need to rethink the stance of masks in classrooms, including Primaries especially if there are too many children in to not be able to social distance in the classroom.

I also wonder if a number of children might ask if they can be at home rather than school when they are sitting in a freezing cold classroom with the windows open

Whether you are allowed to send in your child or not, don't, it isn't safe. When it is safe we can all go back to school.

And what is your definition of ‘safe’

Tbf to pp if you’re going to do section 44 walk out you probably would keep your dc home. Since you thought it was unsafe to go to work.

If you haven’t done a section 44 walk out fine to go ahead though on the flip side.