Diabetics and Vaccination

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Hello all
Any clue when will Diabetics get the vaccination .

We are waaaaaay down the list. April possibly. But probably not, let’s face it.

Group 6.

They are aiming to complete groups 1-4 by middle of Feb. If they manage that, they will probably start on group 6 about the beginning of March, it’s the biggest group - nearly 9 million people - so even at 2 million per week, it will take the whole month.

By that point they need to be doing 2nd jabs for the first recipients.

I thought Diabetes came under group 4 for the clinically extremely vulnerable group?

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I think last time I checked type 1s are about 6th on the priority list. (not sure about 2) I'll be honest I'm pretty concerned that they are so low down. My child is a type 1 (they're 20) and it feels so much like their life is on hold at the moment. To go to college or work just feels like such a huge risk when a vaccine is potentially near for them. Initially we thought the vaccine would be feb or march, but it's looking like it's going to be much later now.

Clinically extremely vulnerable is things like cystic fibrosis, leukaemia, kidney dialysis or sir severe heart disease.

Diabetes comes under the clinically vulnerable group (not extremely), number 6. It looks like they’ll be getting a vaccine around April.

Most diabetics are not extremely clinically vulnerable or shielding group they are in the lower risk vulnerable group which is group 6.

For some reason diabetics aren't counted as ecv just cv I think. There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about however. I've heard of some type 2's that are shielding, but many not. Not sure if it's to do with how well controlled they are?

You can try this calculator to find out when they’re likely to have had both jabs - www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk

Ah I see. My adult child is ecv due to other issues alongside type 1 diabetes & was & is shielding. I wonder who makes the decision about when they're vaccinated. GP or Consultant?

1/3 of people who die with covid are diabetic.
Some of this might just be an overlap with age - a high percentage of older people are t2 diabetics.
But - I think covid is dependent on how your immune system reacts and if it overreacts that is the danger. As a t1 our immune systems have already overreacted once.

I have no idea why the Government has not kept us in priority .The data already should that people with both type 1 and type 2 are at high risk of dying ,no matter what the age is .I assume it would be either May or June .
They don't have enough resources to first complete the first and second round for people under 70.I really think they should revise there groups and put us higher in the list .

Why has the government also delayed the 2nd dose of the vaccine when they have no idea of how it would work out .I think its a wrong idea again .Again a test and try on people .Not fair

They have delayed the second dose so people like you who are lower down the list but still at risk can have some level of protection sooner. It’s a policy designed to help those in the middle of that list.

@Busygoingblah Glad to know that .

I really think they should revise there groups and put us higher in the list

The problem is that everyone thinks this about their condition - there have been similar threads about asthma.

It’s hard all round 🙁

It’s so tricky. You’d have to decide which group to move down the list in order to move diabetics up?

We are a very high percentage comorbidity. The highest I think?
Basically there’s so many of us the government can’t afford for us to shield.

The rationale for the groups is published. The other conditions in the same group include people with chronic heart disease and chronic kidney disease who have dreadful outcomes with covid. Also people with spleen dysfunction (critical to an immune response) and those on medications that deliberately reduce the immune system (including those whose immune system constantly over reacts). They are not all shielding either. I think diabetes is on a par with those conditions.

There is also a call for teachers to be prioritised (again for understandable reasons) but that is another large group.

It is an impossible ‘choice’ and of course people will be worried and disappointed but as someone else said, who is it that should come out of groups 1-5 to make way?

Type 1 diabetics should certainly be higher up the list. But then there is so much ignorance about diabetes. Many I've known didnt even reach 30

Group 6

Type 1 diabetics should certainly be higher up the list. But then there is so much ignorance about diabetes. Many I've known didnt even reach 30

I don’t disagree about lack of appreciation of the nature of diabetes. However this list is not about the risk of the disease, it is about the danger that covid poses in people with a risk factor. There is no way that a person with T1D is more at risk from covid than someone who is undergoing active chemotherapy for example (group 4).

The mortality rate for diabetes is 3x that of someone without diabetes. While this is obviously an increased risk and scary for diabetic patients who are having to be extra careful it’s no where near the risks that leukaemia or cystic fibrosis sufferers are facing.

Diabetics are being priorities. He fed being placed in group 6 they are just not being prioritised as much as others that are at far greater risk than they are.

The data already should that people with both type 1 and type 2 are at high risk of dying ,no matter what the age is

There was research published in June - very old now in pandemic terms, I guess, but for both type 1s and type 2s age was still very much a protective factor. Whilst the average age of those dying is in the 80s, it is in the 70s for diabetics. Low 70s for type1s and late 70s for type 2s.

Keep your sugar under as tight as control as possible. I'm type 1 worked throughout and I just try to help myself as much as possible with the tools I have. Insulin, food and exercise.