Why have they stopped telling us the ages of people who have died with covid

[Sadless]

Just wondering why they have stopped.

Sal

Because people won’t be scared when they admit that the average age of a Covid death is 82. They need maximum fear at all times to terrify us into submission!

The reason is because the highest death rate by far is in the 80+ age. Higher than life expectancy.

They haven’t.

‘NHS England has recorded 582 further coronavirus hospital deaths. The patients were aged between 29 and 103 years and all but 25 had underlying health conditions’

On the Guardian website, released an hour ago.

It's on Sky News every day

Is it still average dying age of 82?

I must admit this fact bucked me up the last time I felt like I was going around the twist.

Well that and finding out I wasn’t high risk enough to get the vaccine for months and months.

I daresay it isn't all that relevant in the scheme of things and it is VERY frightening when you read of young people an children dying of Covid-19, comparatively rare though that is. I'd rather not know, frankly.

Don’t forget that mental illnesses like depression are counted as an underlying health condition.

@jessstan1
No children or young people died of Covid that were not severely ill/end of life.

Surely that’s obvious, OP?

@Premiumbond

“They were children with profound co-morbidities – not a touch of asthma and not cystic fibrosis,” said Calum Semple, professor in child health and outbreak medicine at the University of Liverpool, and co-lead of the study by the International Severe Acute Respiratory and emerging Infection Consortium. Their conditions included cancer and serious neurological, blood or heart issues.

Anecdonal information from two hospitals (a colleague of mine's father works at one her and aunt at the other). They are both full of 20 somethings with no underlying health conditions with Covid - have come in in the past week. Obviously just anecdotal - not real data - but it worried the hell out of me when I heard it. So maybe they don't want to panic us by telling us the young are getting ill.

So maybe they don't want to panic us by telling us the young are getting ill.

They’d love to tell us that if it were true because it would put the fear of god into everyone.

Also, I believe that a BMI of 30 and over is considered an underlying condition. For me, that would be a dress size large 14 to small 16. While that size I can comfortably run 5K, do HIT classes and spend all day hiking.

@Kitfish

Anecdonal information from two hospitals (a colleague of mine's father works at one her and aunt at the other). They are both full of 20 somethings with no underlying health conditions with Covid - have come in in the past week. Obviously just anecdotal - not real data - but it worried the hell out of me when I heard it. So maybe they don't want to panic us by telling us the young are getting ill.

Getting severely ill is a different set of numbers to those dying. If it was only those who died that got severely ill I suspect we wouldn’t have the problems that we do.

For all your death data needs: www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

Weekly breakdowns by sex and age.

It says England and Wales, but actually includes NI and Scotland in certain sheets.

Boris said today when he was harping on about vaccines that the average age of deaths was in the 80s.

What annoys me is "all but x had underlying health conditions"

Well lots of people do.

My son has one. It's neither respiratory, immunity or blood related.

It's physical. It has no effect on his life expectancy - just his likelihood of remaining ambulant.

But having said that he gets the flu jab so I guess there must be a correlation?

@Kitfish

Anecdonal information from two hospitals (a colleague of mine's father works at one her and aunt at the other). They are both full of 20 somethings with no underlying health conditions with Covid - have come in in the past week. Obviously just anecdotal - not real data - but it worried the hell out of me when I heard it. So maybe they don't want to panic us by telling us the young are getting ill.

I've heard them say this.

We have 40% more people in hospital now than the peak. Luckily deaths are lower.

Because many are younger and are surviving and because they have treatments now and much better knowledge on how to deal with it.

My heart goes out to all those on frontline and I don't think it's respectful to them to think death is the only thing that matters.

They treat everyone - even the young who survive. Whilst having to cancel routine ops and deal with the guilt of that too.

@Thepilotlightsgoneout

They haven’t.

‘NHS England has recorded 582 further coronavirus hospital deaths. The patients were aged between 29 and 103 years and all but 25 had underlying health conditions’

On the Guardian website, released an hour ago.

Yes but theoretically that could mean 1 person who was 29 and 581 who are over 70...

Fwiw, I have no idea of the stats...just saying its a rather vague statement

@MayDayHelp

Boris said today when he was harping on about vaccines that the average age of deaths was in the 80s.

Which average? Mean, mode or median, because it changes matters.

Underlying health conditions includes asthma, mental health conditions (including depression) and other conditions that many of us have and would not consider life limiting.

My husband has a BMI above 30. If he died of covid some people would talk about him as if his death didn't count. ^"

"He had a pretty-existing condition" >shrug