66% of my daughters reception class are in school this week

[Crazyoldmaurice]

We live in a very affluent part of South West London, avg house price 750k+

Turns out that 66% of my daughters reception class are due to attend school this week. There are 75 kids in her year group and all 48 keyworker child places have been taken (I was too late to book her on so have had to send an email!).

Hardly seems worth keeping the 25 other kids off at this point.

To the people whose children had no time in school over six months already and saw other dc skip past in uniform I’ll use excluded if I wish. Why do you think it feels different to school being inaccessible for any reason?

Are you using KW place?

I’m pleased all these kids are in school. I’ll be sending my son in next week too.
I bet not to every child will be in every day though? So 66% of all kids but on any particular day say only 40% in, that is sort of the way it worked last time.

@finager

Surely the ones who work remotely with engaged SAHPs will benefit the most?

I'm an engaged sahm. One of my dc gets on with it...the other bursts into tears or point blank refuses to do it.

Marsha because it's not true and really unhelpful.

But, yes, you're right. Knock yourself out trying to make things sound worse than they already are.

Ok how about 'banned from the premises'?

Yeh that could be better

Why have some children had no school over the last 6 months? Do you mean the last 3 as 6 would include the summer?

I don’t understand your post? You are bitching about all the parents taking up spaces, yet you want one.
You boast about being in an affluent area. So what? Kids can be vulnerable in nice houses. Vulnerable doesn’t mean poor.
If you need a place then ask school. Mind your own business about what everybody else needs.
The country will grind to a halt without key workers and those who are, need their children in school.
Stop whining and crack on

@christinarossetti19

Marsha because it's not true and really unhelpful.

But, yes, you're right. Knock yourself out trying to make things sound worse than they already are.

Lol at worse by using the word excluded

Do you see the devastation out there? Read the threads people are losing a lot and it’s the word excluded you object to. Laughable,

I'm an engaged sahm. One of my dc gets on with it...the other bursts into tears or point blank refuses to do it.

But working parents will face the same scenario but also be working

@finager

I'm an engaged sahm. One of my dc gets on with it...the other bursts into tears or point blank refuses to do it.

But working parents will face the same scenario but also be working

So what's the solution? All children with a sahp can't go in and all working parents can send their kids in? What's the point then?

Teachers can't teach online and do classroom teaching at the same time

That’s not exactly true depending on the age group. It is exactly what my university lecturer friends have been doing all last term.

@formerbabe Just to clarify you are a SAHP who thinks key working parents don't deserve places?

@christinarossetti19

Deliaskis you do know that during the spring/summer lock down that the government suspended the curriculum and gave schools no guidance about what if any distanced learning they should provide?

And that the govt legislated in October that schools must provide remote learning when children aren't on site?

Why not ask what your dd's school home learning provision will be before you decide that it's so poor that it's better for her to be involved in the mass transmission of the virus going on on schools?

I do know that, but DD's school taught the KW children (alongside play and outdoor learning), and provided source materials for parents to try to teach at home (none of it was suitable for a child to try and use independently). At the moment, it looks like it will be the same, so yes, we will use the space we are entitled to, so that DD is not left again for months at a disadvantage to others who have a non-working parent.

I realise there was no guidance, but surely it ought to have been clear to any school that the above was not acceptable. Neither was the complete refusal of some schools to provide anything at all, versus those who did everything they practically could to support home learning. As I say, there are other schools I can see who are providing very good solutions. I understand that there was no government guidance, and yet some pulled out all the stops whilst others did very little. It can't be surprising then that the perception of need for a KW space will differ depending on past experience.

[quote finager]@formerbabe Just to clarify you are a SAHP who thinks key working parents don't deserve places? [/quote]
Of course some do...many others are abusing the scheme.

I just dropped my foster children off at school and it was about half full I’d say.
Plenty of staff.

@BishopBrennansArse

Since the last lockdown I've started working for the nhs. I'm just waiting to be deployed to a mass vaccination clinic locally and it could happen any time this week or next week.

DD's school are being amazing about it, she went back this morning. DS2's school however are trying to discourage me from sending him. I have no other option so am going to have to make a shed load of calls today. Didn't really need this...

Persevere. They really should accept your son. It’s pretty outrageous if they don’t considering your job. Complain to the Governors.

@MarshaBradyo

To the people whose children had no time in school over six months already and saw other dc skip past in uniform I’ll use excluded if I wish. Why do you think it feels different to school being inaccessible for any reason?

Are you using KW place?

There you go again.

Of the six months that some children weren't in school for, at least 10 weeks were standard school holidays (when staff were in looking after keyworker children).

My dd was one of them and, guess what, reducing the mixing between people suppressed the transmission of the virus. That was sort of the point of the partial school site closures.

No, I'm not using a keyworker place. Dh is a keyworker but no I haven't even thought about asking for a place.

'Banned from the premises'? Well, use that if you want to, but 'asked to stay at home while teaching is moved remotely in order to suppress transmission of the virus of which schools have been the primary driver of community infection for the past few months and is a threat to life and health for the population' would be more accurate.

So what's the solution? All children with a sahp can't go in and all working parents can send their kids in? What's the point then?

What's the point of what?
I don't think in the current climate out of all the children, so the ones who are in school, the ones remotely with working parents & the ones remotely with a SAHP it's crazy to think the ones with the parent who is "free" & engaged will get the "better" provision. From a statistical POV as opposed to anecdotal.

Of course some do...many others are abusing the scheme.

Give some examples?

We're using a spot this time. Last time we had the option but I still kept DD3 home to ease pressure on the school.

This time, I have DD3 (y7) at home. I've taken a place for DD2 (y9) under vulnerable/key worker because she doesn't do remote learning well. DD1 (y10) goes to a different school but we don't know what they'll do yet.

I have no guilt taking the place, despite me being at home. DD2 needs that place.

Good for you you say what you want I dgaf how you frame it in your head. Aren’t you a KW?

Excluded is hardly on a par with some of the ridiculous hyperbole posters put on here daily have been since September.

Deliaskis yes I understand that. And I can see why you and others are taking kw places.

My point is that given the country has just gone in to a 'March style' lockdown where the safest thing for everyone, individually and as a society, is for people to stay at home when they can, and that schools are under a completely different remit to that which they were in March, it might be worth checking out what your school is planning to do before deciding that it's inadequate.

@MarshaBradyo

Good for you you say what you want I dgaf how you frame it in your head. Aren’t you a KW?

Excluded is hardly on a par with some of the ridiculous hyperbole posters put on here daily have been since September.

Yes, but can wfh.

You know as well as I do that 'exclusion' has a very specific meaning in education.

It's a bit rich to hear it being used about children who are affected by a national lockdown to suppress the virus, when there is usually scant regard on MN for children who actually are excluded from the education system and the effect that that has on them.

I do think it is being abused. I know at least two parents who work from home and are sending their children in because they are keyworkers. I know another family, one parent. Keyworker and one stay at home dad, they are sending their child. I reallly do think school should be asking for letters from employer to conform place is needed

This will have an effect on children don’t worry. Read up on it if you’re in doubt.