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66% of my daughters reception class are in school this week

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Crazyoldmaurice · 04/01/2021 22:29

We live in a very affluent part of South West London, avg house price 750k+

Turns out that 66% of my daughters reception class are due to attend school this week. There are 75 kids in her year group and all 48 keyworker child places have been taken (I was too late to book her on so have had to send an email!).

Hardly seems worth keeping the 25 other kids off at this point.

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Wheresyourclapham · 05/01/2021 01:56

*selfish people

Fleshlumpeater · 05/01/2021 06:35

High uptake in our school too. I’m really worried that while the teacher is teaching the 2/3 of the class that are key worker kids the few who have stayed off are just going to be forgotten about. It all just feels really unfair, like some kids are missing out just because their parents managed to get a letter from employers saying they’re key workers. Non key workers also have work to do and can work outside the house. Why should a key worker who can wfh take priority over any other full time worker?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 05/01/2021 06:47

I didn’t last time as thought we could manage for 3 weeks wfh and kids who are pretty good managing themselves while I run a critical business healthcare team from home. I was struggling as were most of my team and then because we hadn’t got it first time the council wouldn’t give us help when we asked so it then affected our work and we couldn’t work properly.

JacobReesMogadishu · 05/01/2021 07:06

Am I right in thinking schools don’t do any teaching with key worker kids? My brother (teacher) said last lock down they didn’t as it was unfair on the non key worker kids.

So actually if you’re home schooling your kids at home those kids might be doing better than the kids who are sat in schools?

MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2021 07:36

No it’ll be different to last time as not suspended curriculum

Plus children want to use KW spaces because they know the impact of long term exclusion if they did the 6 months last time. No friends to hang around with and in primary a lot is based on play.

So many who didn’t use it last time will certainly attempt to get it this time. Also on impossibility of finding childcare for KW everyone has that. It’s not easier to work at home and homeschool because you don’t get a place.

Quornflakegirl · 05/01/2021 07:44

I can't home school mine as I WORK from home so if it's only childcare the school are providing so be it.

MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2021 07:45

Yes that’s the issue for many KW or not.

Ayupmeduck · 05/01/2021 07:48

@JacobReesMogadishu

Am I right in thinking schools don’t do any teaching with key worker kids? My brother (teacher) said last lock down they didn’t as it was unfair on the non key worker kids.

So actually if you’re home schooling your kids at home those kids might be doing better than the kids who are sat in schools?

They will be doing the exact same work in school as those at home, supervised by an adult. Often this is a TA. As for those going on about the social aspect, there will be strict social distancing with children sitting at desks 2m apart. It really isn't school as we know it. Certainly won't be business as usual for those children they are sent in.
MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2021 07:52

Do they not get to talk to each other? What do you do at lunch time?

CurlyhairedAssassin · 05/01/2021 07:52

I think this needs to be managed very carefully this time round. Last time with the keyworker/vulnerable system in secondary at least there were low numbers in school so kids properly spread out in IT rooms supervised by TAs, who were not able to give too much help with the work as there was only one teacher present between quite a few classrooms, and obviously that teacher is a subject specialist in only one subject so.....

This time if more kids come in there will not be enough TAs to cover the supervision, not enough spacing out, more teachers will have to come to help supervise meaning teachers who are parents to young kids will have to send their own kids into primaries, resulting in more attending there than last time.

I really hope that in secondaries at least only the neediest vulnerable kids are sent in by their parents.

Call me naive but I actually didn’t know that the keyworker/vulnerable places had been taken by parents who were physically at home. I thought last time that they were there for kids who would have been literally physically home alone otherwise and too young or vulnerable to keep themselves safe.

I do think that remote learning is different this time, with live teaching on Meet and Classroom, as opposed to “work through this” pamphlets put in Classroom or getting sent by email. There should be more structure to the day and actual support from teachers by video/audio link, for secondary kids at least.

DH and I are both key workers and he works 60/70 hours a week out of the home. I’m not sure if I can work at home this time yet but last time when I had to go to work I turned down DS’s keyworker place as he was in year 9, was able to keep himself safe at home and had access to a device. He got in a muddle with his schedule (immature And left to his own devices and gaming he got behind with his work etc) and considered that would be better in school in the event of another lockdown to give him some discipline. But I have decided against it because a) thread remote learning set up is much better and b) the virus is more transmissible amongst that age group this time round.

I think with junior school children if you are physically at home and working that you should aim to keep your children there, even if they are in the next room while you make certain phone calls. They do not need a person constantly in the same room as them if they are doing some online learning with the teacher on a screen. The rest of the time then I’m sure there will be an over reliance on screens and TV entertainment a screen as outside play is limited in the winter but it is what it is. It’s hopefully for a shorter time this time round as no school summer holidays round the corner on top of lockdown and the vaccine will start to affect transmission rates.

(It’s another thread but part of me thinks school pupils and staff should be done first along with NHS staff as many older and vulnerable people are shielding by choice anyway and it’s the school kids who are likely to bring the virus to them)

Sweetpea84 · 05/01/2021 07:54

I’m a key worker and so is my husband we both work in a school and have been told to come in to
Work everyday so my DD 9 and DS 5 will be going in I have no choice. The schools criteria was both parents have to be key workers unless your a single parent.

Ayupmeduck · 05/01/2021 07:55

@MarshaBradyo

Do they not get to talk to each other? What do you do at lunch time?
Lunch at their desks in the classroom. About 20 mins outside but again keeping apart. No touching:contact games etc. I wouldn't be sending my child to school in a pandemic for that level of social contact.
MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2021 07:56

Up to you. Better not to as you’ll keep the numbers down.

Soontobe60 · 05/01/2021 08:00

@Quornflakegirl

Dh is a critical worker, if he isn't at work it effects hundreds of families. I work from home and have done for years, I also earn considerably more than Dh. If he doesn't work it will have huge effects on the city, if I don't work we have no income. Last lockdown I almost killed myself juggling both. I will not be doing that again, ever.
Anyone who cannot work because of childcare can now access furlough. If your dhs job is so important, he should be being paid more. Why don’t you do that - instead of abusing the system?
MegtheShark · 05/01/2021 08:01

Confirmed with our (primary) school this morning that they are happy for kids to go in as usual if a) We don’t feel we can cope with homeschooling and b) Have other dc that might disrupt ‘quiet learning time’. Also confirmed that they don’t need proof or confirmation if will be attending...just send them in as usual. So they have no idea how many are going in and don’t seem to care.

Judging from the parents WhatsApp most have been tempted by this and are going in as usual. I can’t blame a few of them, one has a dc who the school are gathering evidence for an EHCP for and he’ll need the support next year.

Some, like the couple of parents who don’t work but just don’t care about the virus/can’t be arsed, I do judge a bit.

It’s going to be a struggle for us, but as the new variant is just getting hold of this area I would rather leave the places for actual key workers children to be able to go in safely. Sadly, I don’t think they will be very safe at our school for long Sad

finager · 05/01/2021 08:02

Anyone who cannot work because of childcare can now access furlough

I didn't think school staff or police etc could be furloughed?

Soontobe60 · 05/01/2021 08:03

My school where I teach has told the staff that we all have to come in, key worker children will be in their own classes (we’re only expecting single numbers in each class) where they can access the home learning as the teachers will be teaching online all day. They will be sat well away from each other. No break times outside, lunch at their desks. I should imagine it will be tough on the children in school tbh.

Soontobe60 · 05/01/2021 08:05

@MegtheShark

Confirmed with our (primary) school this morning that they are happy for kids to go in as usual if a) We don’t feel we can cope with homeschooling and b) Have other dc that might disrupt ‘quiet learning time’. Also confirmed that they don’t need proof or confirmation if will be attending...just send them in as usual. So they have no idea how many are going in and don’t seem to care.

Judging from the parents WhatsApp most have been tempted by this and are going in as usual. I can’t blame a few of them, one has a dc who the school are gathering evidence for an EHCP for and he’ll need the support next year.

Some, like the couple of parents who don’t work but just don’t care about the virus/can’t be arsed, I do judge a bit.

It’s going to be a struggle for us, but as the new variant is just getting hold of this area I would rather leave the places for actual key workers children to be able to go in safely. Sadly, I don’t think they will be very safe at our school for long Sad

Nope, you're right. As soon as a child tests positive, that’ll be the whole class - including KEY worker children - sent home to isolate. It makes a nonsense of the lockdown if schools say anyone can turn up if they want to. Unions will be screaming from the rooftops!
littlestpogo · 05/01/2021 08:06

Public sector are not allowed to furlough.

I do agree re how many are taking up KW places this time. I know several who have one parent in finance and the other a SAHP.

I think the only thing is just try to concentrate on yourself and not think about others too much. Otherwise the frustration will be too much!

Soontobe60 · 05/01/2021 08:06

@finager

Anyone who cannot work because of childcare can now access furlough

I didn't think school staff or police etc could be furloughed?

Public sector workers are not expected to be furloughed but they can stay off work if they have serious childcare issues and still be paid. So technically, a teacher can stay at home with their children and be paid.
MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2021 08:08

Can’t they do remote learning from home?

Sweetpea84 · 05/01/2021 08:10

See my kids really enjoyed going in last lockdown and are looking forward to it this time. They do the work set for everybody in the morning so maths etc and then do activities such as art and baking in the afternoon, the music teacher even gives them lessons. They are kept in their year bubble so Ds in eyfs so they’re kept with their teacher in their learning environment and the same with my daughter so it’s not doom and gloom in every school.

littlestpogo · 05/01/2021 08:11

I can assure you that my public sector job is not offering for parents to be paid and effectively signed off work

Kokeshi123 · 05/01/2021 08:14

Am I right in thinking schools don’t do any teaching with key worker kids?

Shockingly, some schools did indeed just babysit the KW kids. However, the majority of schools did make sure the kids got education (usually getting the kids to work through the same schoolwork packs as the homeschooled kids). Hopefully this will be universal this time round.

finager · 05/01/2021 08:14

Public sector workers are not expected to be furloughed but they can stay off work if they have serious childcare issues and still be paid. So technically, a teacher can stay at home with their children and be paid.

Can they? Not at the school I work at or my dc go to.

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